Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot

[Olympian2100]

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(01/08/2019 00:39)313201 Wrote:  Although I have not looked at anything to do with the traffic commission ( didn't know there was a website for them ) I have seen before now that 2 of the 410s 30 minutes apart that arrive at New Brighton and have changed their destination to show 411 Woodside then go on to do woodside and back to new brighton as a 411 then go back to a 410 upon returning to new brighton.

So its possible the change might be something go do with that.

Try this website for Traffic Commissioner Notices: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/notices-and-...of-england

[313201]

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Its knowing which 1 to look at as there are so many to pick from.

[N304CLV]

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2496 is here and on 492 today.

[mrd97]

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I was wondering why the 487 runs to a bizarre route on Sundays.

Alternate services go to either Ness Gardens (direct route not via the usual route) or Parkgate (which bizarrely gets a 2 hour service in the daytime and hourly on Sunday evenings). I know that Parkgate wouldn’t have a sunday service otherwise, yet Monday - Saturday Parkgate has no evening service and the 487 instead terminates in little Neston. So it seems odd it’s deemed necessary for a regular Sunday evening service.

[wirralbus]

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Is the evening and sunday service commercial in Cheshire or is it provided by Cheshire West and Chester Council to keep them on the Public Transport Map.

The Ness Gardens extension to the 487 has been going for a while , im sure it originally had the number 488

[iMarkeh]

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(19/08/2019 07:52)wirralbus Wrote:  Is the evening and sunday service commercial in Cheshire or is it provided by Cheshire West and Chester Council to keep them on the Public Transport Map.

The Ness Gardens extension to the 487 has been going for a while , im sure it originally had the number 488

Evenings and Sundays are funded by CWACC.

[wirralbus]

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(19/08/2019 08:48)iMarkeh Wrote:  Evenings and Sundays are funded by CWACC.

It does make sense , because if it was commercial i think , Neston would be the end of the route .

[EBG 758]

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About this time last year there was a post suggesting that the hybrids were for a re-furb.Does anyone know if this will happen?

[L401CJF]

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The 487s used to run to Neston Brook Street only Mon to Sat daytime until about 2011. Some morning and evening services extended to Greenfields. The evening services used to go to Parkgate 7 days a week, and the same alternate service on a Sunday every other hour a service to Parkgate, and the other a 488 to Ness Gardens direct via Burton Rd.

Around 2011 GHA operated a free bus contract bus which linked various parts of Neston and Little Neston, Arriva took over, extending the 487 Mon to Fri day time service via Greenfields, Ness Gardens, Royal Oak, Breezehill Rd in a circular which meant passengers sitting on the bus during layover at Ness. It was later revised to its current route operating the same in both directions (not the Breezehill/HHinderton Road sections due to the Brook St one way system) and having Ness as a terminus rather than a circular route. Evening services Mon to Sat still ran to Parkgate until about 2016 until they saw sense and rerouted to the Royal Oak. Sunday services remained unchanged bar renumbering the 488 as another 487. So now we have Ness Gardens weekday route. Ness Gardens Sunday route, Royal Oak evening route, Royal Oak via Greenfields Peak route, and Parkgate, all under 1 route number.

[mrd97]

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(19/08/2019 17:48)L401CJF Wrote:  The 487s used to run to Neston Brook Street only Mon to Sat daytime until about 2011. Some morning and evening services extended to Greenfields. The evening services used to go to Parkgate 7 days a week, and the same alternate service on a Sunday every other hour a service to Parkgate, and the other a 488 to Ness Gardens direct via Burton Rd.

Around 2011 GHA operated a free bus contract bus which linked various parts of Neston and Little Neston, Arriva took over, extending the 487 Mon to Fri day time service via Greenfields, Ness Gardens, Royal Oak, Breezehill Rd in a circular which meant passengers sitting on the bus during layover at Ness. It was later revised to its current route operating the same in both directions (not the Breezehill/HHinderton Road sections due to the Brook St one way system) and having Ness as a terminus rather than a circular route. Evening services Mon to Sat still ran to Parkgate until about 2016 until they saw sense and rerouted to the Royal Oak. Sunday services remained unchanged bar renumbering the 488 as another 487. So now we have Ness Gardens weekday route. Ness Gardens Sunday route, Royal Oak evening route, Royal Oak via Greenfields Peak route, and Parkgate, all under 1 route number.

See this is where I was getting at. I assumed the extensions were partially funded by CWACC, and I knew the gradual changes of the routes, I just didn’t understand why they have left the Sunday service unchanged, as the different routes in and around Neston are confusing especially under the same route number. For example, ie why bother with Parkgate at all for one day a week, daytime service okay fair enough but why they have it running to Parkgate Sunday evenings I find bizarre considering it doesn’t any other day if the week. I would just have it run to Little Neston Sunday daytime and evening as it does Monday to Saturday evenings