Arriva North West - Birkenhead Depot

[PO59 MXJ]

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(26/01/2015 12:46)moreton407 Wrote:  Lots of cross-river buses doing the circuit around Cook Street, North John Street, Lord Street and Castle Street back to Cook Street due too many buses laying over there. Saw one bus go round about four or five times, driver didn't look best pleased.

Surely there should be something done about the small little street with so many bus services leaving from there.

When thr council redone Castle Street, instead of putting a ridiculously huge pavement there, they should have utilised that space a bit better and put layover space in, wouldnt be any problems then. Would be enough space for all cross river buses to layover, including the ones that dont serve Cook Street (e.g. Chesters)

[wirralbus]

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It will be a matter of time before some of the Wirral Bound services will miss the Cook Street stop because they cant pull up and doing another circuit would make them late .

A big mistake was doing all the associated paving works in Cook Street and Castle Street , may look nice but not bus friendly at all.

[MPTE1955]

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Can't see the council doing anything about it anytime soon, our useless mayor is not exactly bus friendly, he has already proved this with the bus lane removals.

[wirralbus]

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Now not helped by the amount of bus services no longer running into Liverpool One Bus station and Mann Island from the North and East of Liverpool , clogging up all the roads in the vicinity of Water Street , James Street and Lord Street.

[Barney]

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(26/01/2015 14:42)wirralbus Wrote:  Now not helped by the amount of bus services no longer running into Liverpool One Bus station and Mann Island from the North and East of Liverpool , clogging up all the roads in the vicinity of Water Street , James Street and Lord Street.

This issue of buses clogging up the city centre streets could all be resolved if they built a large bus station somewhere. I know, how about one at the Pier Head?

[PO59 MXJ]

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Pier Head is a bit out of the way. But where else big enough is there? Queen Square gets clogged upnif theres 2 buses on a stand, such an awful idea building that, and Liverpool 1 is awful from a passengers point of view. Paradise Street was perfect. Layover space all the way round, sheltered the passengers from the weather, in the heart of the city. Like you said Barney, one large bus station, indoors for passengers and plently of layover space for the buses. If only these people who got paid mega bucks actually had brains...

[childwallblues]

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(26/01/2015 12:46)moreton407 Wrote:  Lots of cross-river buses doing the circuit around Cook Street, North John Street, Lord Street and Castle Street back to Cook Street due too many buses laying over there. Saw one bus go round about four or five times, driver didn't look best pleased.

Surely there should be something done about the small little street with so many bus services leaving from there.

Perhaps they should cut back on the number of Cross River services?

[Barney]

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(26/01/2015 19:18)childwallblues Wrote:  Perhaps they should cut back on the number of Cross River services?

My comment re a Pier Head bus station was a bit tongue-in-cheek and I suspect yours is too. Here we go again. Prior to bus deregulation the only bus services operating through either tunnel were very few and far between. At the time the MPTE would not allow buses to travel through the Birkenhead tunnel but preferred commuters to use the Wirral Merseyrail services, transferring at Hamilton Square. I wonder how the many thousands of Cross-River passengers would react if this strategy was ever to return with bus franchising. It may sound a little far-fetched, but let's wait and see what happens in May.

[wirralbus]

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There is no way that merseytravel could now ever stop the services that presently operate through the Birkenhead tunnel without a major public outcry as the passengers have now got so used to these services over the last 29 years.

[childwallblues]

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(26/01/2015 14:55)Barney Wrote:  This issue of buses clogging up the city centre streets could all be resolved if they built a large bus station somewhere. I know, how about one at the Pier Head?

The Pier Head is a World Heritage Site. Also since the Pier Head was a bus station the canal now blocks off half of the area. There is nowhere for a bus station so on street terminals would have to be the answer as now. Cook Street is bad as it is too short to accommodate all the cross river buses. The traffic flow in Brunswick Street could be reversed and parking banned to provide bus parking.