[Archive] Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[YN05 WKE]

RE: Arriva Rail North

(02/03/2016 11:10)Gordon V Wrote:  Finish date/start date is 1 April 2016.As for when Arriva will make their mark,gradually.

Thanks Gordan much appreciated

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: Arriva Rail North
It's been reported on Richard Clinnick's (RAIL assistant editor) Twitter page that the following units will be joining the Northern fleet when released from their current operators:

23x Class 150/1 (GWR and London Midland)
5x Class 156 (Abellio ScotRail)
8x Class 158/0 (Abellio ScotRail)
16x Class 170/4 (Abellio ScotRail)
12x Class 319 (TSGN)

The Class 153s, 321/9s and 322s will be leaving the fleet as well as the Class 142s, 144s and 323s

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Arriva Rail North
So the Northern franchise will get its first 170's then and quite a sizeable amount at that.

[childwallblues]

RE: Arriva Rail North
I would imagine that the 158s will be 158782/86/96/867-71 which were destined for Northern some years ago but "borrowed" by Scotrail and never returned.

[knutstransport]

RE: Arriva Rail North

(09/03/2016 07:52)childwallblues Wrote:  I would imagine that the 158s will be 158782/86/96/867-71 which were destined for Northern some years ago but "borrowed" by Scotrail and never returned.

The 158s will be the Angel Trains ones which were originally intended as going to Northern as the Scotrail agreement shows them going off-lease.

[knutstransport]

RE: Arriva Rail North

(08/03/2016 18:09)St Helens Rider Wrote:  So the Northern franchise will get its first 170's then and quite a sizeable amount at that.

It was originally expected Northern would get up to 29 x 170s but Transport Scotland have decided Scotrail need 13 x 170s than was allowed for. Question is could Northern finish up either getting 185s or getting other trains released as a direct result of TPE releasing 22 of their 185s?

[childwallblues]

RE: Arriva Rail North

(11/03/2016 14:11)knutstransport Wrote:  The 158s will be the Angel Trains ones which were originally intended as going to Northern as the Scotrail agreement shows them going off-lease.

I have already listed which ones that they are.

[507022]

RE: Arriva Rail North

(11/03/2016 14:14)knutstransport Wrote:  It was originally expected Northern would get up to 29 x 170s but Transport Scotland have decided Scotrail need 13 x 170s than was allowed for. Question is could Northern finish up either getting 185s or getting other trains released as a direct result of TPE releasing 22 of their 185s?

What will TPE be replacing the 22 185s with?

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: Arriva Rail North

(12/03/2016 18:34)507022 Wrote:  What will TPE be replacing the 22 185s with?

TPE will be ordering 44 brand new trains to replace 22 of the 185s and all of the 350/4s

[wirralbus]

RE: Arriva Rail North
Arent they TPE looking at bi-mode trains i think as they are looking to the future with the vast majority of there network being electrified with only small parts not being electrified .