First Manchester

[P528LND]

RE: First Manchester
I know from a reliable source that outside London, Oldham Depot is amongst the top five most profitable depots in the UK, so it is hardly surprising that our area gets good treatment

[Polo Mint]

RE: First Manchester
No shocks there. Many FirstGroup fleets have primarily step-enterance-Darts and Olympians for regular services, but Oldham has a very fresh fleet and obviously for a good reason. Not to mention a monopoly position and in a dense urban area that connects onto a greater city network.

Hopefully this will encourage more services, Oldham is not connected to Salford, or the Trafford Centre at all (neither is Bury, or Rochdale, or Middleton) that is a clear gap that could be filled.

[jimbo]

RE: First Manchester
Oldham is very profitable, but, stagecoach are more profitable in greater manchester, the uni magic bus drivers can take up to a grand some days...

[ANW 2283]

RE: First Manchester

(07/05/2013 17:49)Polo Mint Wrote:  Maybe Oldham is the favourite child as the HQ is there?

We will just have to wait and see.

(06/05/2013 18:53)ANW 2283 Wrote:  Does anyone know where I can get a First Manchester fleet list newer than Sep 2012!

Thanks in advance...

Just noticed your post, try here. http://www.freewebs.com/nwbus/fleetlists.htm

Thanks! I know roughly how many Darts are left now...

[P528LND]

RE: First Manchester

(08/05/2013 23:06)jimbo Wrote:  Oldham is very profitable, but, stagecoach are more profitable in greater manchester, the uni magic bus drivers can take up to a grand some days...

I should have been more specific, I was referring to inside of Firstgroup :P

[P528LND]

RE: First Manchester

(08/05/2013 21:54)Polo Mint Wrote:  Hopefully this will encourage more services, Oldham is not connected to Salford, or the Trafford Centre at all (neither is Bury, or Rochdale, or Middleton) that is a clear gap that could be filled.

One of the main reasons that Oldham is do profitable is because First practically eradicated any route that wasn't up to scratch on profits, ie 58 to Trafford Centre, 52 to Salford, etc. There just isn't enough punters for it to be viable, and as one passenger of public transport daily I know I eould rather catch more frequent connections into the City Centre than wait around for a bus that isn't due for the next 30 minutes.

The problem is this - high frequency equates to more passengers, however high frequency routes released quickly and people don't know the route so don't take it, meaning lowered frequency meaning less passengers again, meaning demise of route.

[P528LND]

RE: First Manchester
66891 hasn't always been an Oldham bus has it? Its working the 425.

[ANW 2283]

RE: First Manchester
Do the deckers which lay over on a Saturday at Rochdale ever work in service?

Thanks in advance,

[SF07]

RE: First Manchester

(10/05/2013 18:00)P528LND Wrote:  66891 hasn't always been an Oldham bus has it? Its working the 425.

There are some photos on Flickr dated 2009 operating on Oldham depot services. Although, there is a photo of it in Bolton last year.

[jimbo]

RE: First Manchester

(10/05/2013 20:46)ANW 2283 Wrote:  Do the deckers which lay over on a Saturday at Rochdale ever work in service?

Thanks in advance,

This is actually a monday to saturday thing, most of them run on running boards which are taxi all day, though a few have the occasional school on them