Diamond Bus North West

[iMarkeh]

RE: Diamond Bus North West

(28/09/2019 13:26)SF07 Wrote:  Diamond Bus making some changes from end of October. Mostly minor changes to the ex-First routes along with some contracted changes.

• 8: Afternoon peak-time journeys re-timed.
• 26/34: Evening journeys on service 26 withdrawn and partly replaced by service 34, departing at 35 past the hour in both directions.
• 35: Withdrawn.
• 68: Additional evening journeys introduced, replacing current First journeys.
• 132: The 1746 Mon-Sat journey from Wigan is extended from Boothstown to intu Trafford Centre.
• 162/163: Afternoon peak-time journeys re-timed.
• 245: The 2158 journey from intu Trafford Centre is extended from Sale to Altrincham
• 300: New Saturday journeys at 0815 from intu Trafford Centre and 1845 from Bolton
• 472/474: Minor timetable changes
• 501: Service re-timed with buses leaving Johnson Fold two minutes earlier
• 524: Minor timetable changes
• 561/562: Minor timetable changes
• 607: Times changed
• 635: Evening service withdrawn
• 694: Loss of tender
• 695: Times changed.
• X8: New weekday morning service, running two journeys at 0700 and 0720 from Bolton to Manchester via Farnworth and Pendlebury (journey time 65 minutes).
• X39: Journeys that currently start/terminate at Little Hulton will extend to Farnworth.
  

https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/dbnw-o...9-changes/

Seems like dead millage changes really forthe X39 and the 132. Does anyone know of any buses having to start in Manchester at around 8-half 8 which could explain the X8 as otherwise, this seems like an increase in resources.

The rest seems like reliability changes. Good thing for Diamond to be doing at such an early stage.

[B10B6514]

RE: Diamond Bus North West
What is Rotala's plan for an alternative for the 90 odd Wrightbus Streetdecks remaining from their order now that Wrights have gone belly up?

Considering First will be expecting their loan vehicles back to cascade to other units and a schedule will be planned for those to return. Just saying.....

[M60lad]

RE: Diamond Bus North West
The changes to 132 and 300 Trafford Centre make perfect sense considering both these services are now operated out of Eccles Depot.

The odd thing is that despite Diamond getting the evenimg 68 journies back from First Manchester (Oldham Depot), nothing is mentioned about 2 service which seems First at Oldham will still operate from next momth.

[Citibus]

RE: Diamond Bus North West
694 tender will be operated by Tyrers

[Winston]

RE: Diamond Bus North West

(29/09/2019 01:19)B10B6514 Wrote:  What is Rotala's plan for an alternative for the 90 odd Wrightbus Streetdecks remaining from their order now that Wrights have gone belly up?

Considering First will be expecting their loan vehicles back to cascade to other units and a schedule will be planned for those to return. Just saying.....

Nothing yet - there's no immediate rush. It's a case of wait & see what happens with Wrightbus initially, incase anyone takes on the business in some form.

The First loan vehicles are with DBNW for up to two years and will be returned in batches. There's certainly not 90 odd to be returned anytime soon. There's only the 11 x 14 plate Enviro400's that were due to be returned by 31st Dec 2019, the next batch of 10 deckers has until 30th June 2020. There's a large batch due back by 31st Dec 2020 i.e. the entire B7RLE fleet plus some more deckers.

Rotala have only taken 121 First loan vehicles, an extra B7RLE wasn't taken (69143).

[Winston]

RE: Diamond Bus North West

(28/09/2019 16:13)mikestone Wrote:  Interestingly Simon Dunn has said "I cannot comment" reply on another forum.
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I can't think of a 50 vehicle candidate.

Yes, I saw.

Yourbus themselves may be around 50 buses, but will exceed that with the Tourismo fleet iirc ? Interestingly their MD & company secretary that was running it for Scott Dunn resigned on 19th Sept.

[B10B6514]

RE: Diamond Bus North West
Thanks for that Winston.

[mikestone]

RE: Diamond Bus North West
I don't see why they would put the discs on the Preston Bus licence if the intention was to take over an operation south of Bolton - I wondered if Shaw/Kirkby Lonsdale were going to give up bus operation, but that can't come anywhere near 50 discs surely.

[Winston]

RE: Diamond Bus North West

(29/09/2019 13:47)mikestone Wrote:  I don't see why they would put the discs on the Preston Bus licence if the intention was to take over an operation south of Bolton - I wondered if Shaw/Kirkby Lonsdale were going to give up bus operation, but that can't come anywhere near 50 discs surely.

Not sure, other than Dunn Motor Traction Ltd (ta Yourbus) operates in the NE Traffic area i.e. different to where Rotala currently hold licenses. Either way, if not Yourbus, Heanor is being used to mask the next acquisition.

I did wonder about just the bus operations of Tyrers possibly? Or Pilkington Bus (Boomerang Travel Ltd) has 35 discs, Preston Bus already operate in to Clitheroe.

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Diamond Bus North West
I wonder if the 4 Scanias at Bolton will go back to Preston or are they still needed at Bolton?