Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network

[Mikeonthebuses]

RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
Today will be exploring the 400 - 499 series of routes that GM Buses Introduced on 26th October 1986 and will be comparing the network against the network that is currently operating as of April 2020.

We discover that this series of routes have pretty much been torn apart since it was first it introduced on 26th October 1986, we found the core problems as to why bus travel is falling in North Manchester due to excessive cuts and changes to the services that once resident could get direct service might now have to get several services to their final destination and we discover that we have had at least 6 routes completely abandoned and a few routes merged together.

As with all theses routes series comprassions I have posted which routes do you miss and do you fully believe that when regulation of bus services happen again do you think TFGM should be restoring the 1986 routes to simplify the network or does the network need a complete rewrite when TFGM regalate the buses again.


400 | Bolton - Stockport via Oldham | Partly Replaced by 471, 409, 347, 206, 203
401 | Wigan - Oldham via Middleton | Partly Replaced by 7, 559, 7, 471, 163, 59
402 | Warrington - Bolton via Leigh | Partly Replaced by 22/360, 34, 582
403 | Bolton - Leeds via Rochdale |
404 | Sholver - Middleton via Chadderton Hall | Partly Replaced by 82/83, 402. 149, 59
405 | Sholver - Limeside Lime Green Road via Chapel Road | Partly Replaced by 82/83, 183, 149, 76, 183
406 | Sholver - Limeside Lime Green Road via Elm Rd | Partly Replaced by 82/83, 183
408 | Stalybridge - Oldham via Hurst | Partly Replaced by 348, 231, 425
409 | Rochdale - Ashton via Oldham | Unchanged
410 | Turks Head - Ashton via Oldham | Merged with 409
411 | Shaw - Oldham via Buckstones | Fully replaced by 408
412 | Derker - Middleton via Royton | Partly Replaced by 402, 59
415 | Oldham - Middleton via Alkrington | Unchanged
419 | Woodhouses - Failsworth via Pole Lane | Partly Replaced by 159, 83, 159
421 | Moston - Fitton Hill via Werneth | Partly Replaced by 81, 415, 426
422 | Oldham - South Chadderton via Chamber Rd | Partly replaced by 183, 149, 81 (The Long Ln to Butterworth Lane loop have been severed by the M60 Construction.
425 | Holts Estate Course View - Oldham via Park Road Loop | Partly replaced by 425
426 | Holts Estate Course View - Oldham via Glodwick Loop | Partly Replaced by 425
427 | Hollinwood - Diggle via Uppermill | Partly Replaced by 84, 350, 356,
428 | Ashton - Moston Ferranti Works via Garden Suburbs | Partly Replaced by 409, 396, 84, 181
431 | Rochdale Circular via Deeplish | Partly Replaced by 6, R7, 17
432 | Rochdale - Sudden via Ashfield Valley | Abandoned
433 | Rochdale Circular via Turf Hill | Partly Replaced by R7, 409 (Deeplish is no longer served)
434 | Rochdale Circular via Turf Hill | Partly Replaced by 409, R7 (Deeplish is no longer served)
435 | Rochdale - Buckstones via High Crompton | Unchanged
436 | Rochdale Circular via Kirkholt | Partly Replaced by 6, R7, 17
437 | Rochdale Circular via Kirkholt | Partly Replaced by 17, R7, 6
438 | Rochdale - Daniel Fold via Spotland | Partly Replaced by 467 (Daniel Fold no longer served)
439 | Rochdale Stn - Lane Head | Abandoned
440 | Rochdale Stn - Syke Chapel via Fieldhouse Mill | Partly Replaced by 471, R13, R1
443 | Rochdale - Castleton Chesham Drive | Abandoned
447 | Rochdale - Wallbank via Healey | Fully replaced by R13
449 | Rochdale - Wardle via Low Hill | Fully replaced by 456
450 | Rochdale - Littleborough via Hollingworth Lake | Partly Replaced by 457, 458, 457
451 | Rochdale - Peppermint bridge via Milnrow | Partly Replaced by 58. R5
452 | Rochdale - Littleborough Clough Road | Abandoned
453 | Hollingworth Lake - Wardle via Birch Hill | Partly Replaced by 458. 456
454 | Rochdale - Shore va Littleborough | Fully Replaced by 588
456 | Milnrow - Littleborough via Rochdale | Abandoned
457 | Rochdale - Stansfield via Shore | Fully Replaced by 588
464 | Rochdale - Accrington via Bacup | Unchanged
465 | Rochdale - Bacup via Whitworth | Merged with 464
466 | Rochdale - Rawtenstall via Mettlecote | Merged with 464
468 | Hopwood - Darn Hill via Heywood | Partly Replaced by B4, R2, 163
470 | Bury - Rochdale via Darn Hill | Partly Replaced by 163, 471
471 | Bury - Rochdale via Bury New Rd | Extended to Bolton
472 | Bury - Rawtenstall via Walmersley |
473 | Bury - Nangreaves via Walmersley | Partly Replaced by B2
474 | Bury - Edenfield via Holcombe Brook | Partly Replaced by 474, 273
475 | Bury - Tottington via Greenmount | Abandoned
476 | Bury - Edenfield via Greenmount | Partly Replaced by B1, 273
477 | Bury - Holcombe Village via Summerseat | Partly Replaced by B1
478 | Bury - Topping Folds via Bell Lane | Partly Replaced by 467, B4
479 | Rochdale - Tottington via Bury | Partly Replaced by 468, 469
480 | Bury - Walves via Tottington Road | Partly Replaced by 469, TA2
481 | Bury - Shuttleworth via Tottington | Partly Replaced by 480, 273, x41
482 | Bury - Edenfield via Holcombe Brook | Partly Replaced by 472/474, 273
484 | Tottington - Eccles via Radcliffe | Partly Replaced by 480, 511, 91, 512, 513, 95, 484
492 | Bury - Chesham | Partly Replaced by B2
497 | Whitefield - Kersal Bar via Prestwich | Partly Replaced by 135, 95, 97, 135, 94, 90, 94, 484, 96
498 | Bury - Simister via Unsworth | Partly Replaced by 92, 97, 484, 92, 484, 135, 94, 90
499 | Bury - Hornby Street | Abandoned

I’m nearing the end of this comprassions as I only got 500-599 | 600-699 | Misc Routes | Letters Routes to do then after that all been done I love to go further back in time to compare the Selnec Network to today's network and The last day of GMPTE Network before it become GM Buses but I haven’t got the materials to do that so I was wondering if anyone has any guides, knowledge or websites where I can get SELNEC routes and GMPTE Routes which operated on the last day before deregulation so I can compare them to the modern day network. It would be very appreciated.