Northern (Arriva Rail North)

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RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Dentonian - You're trying to explain BSOG when you don't appear to understand how rail subsidies work. The old Northern franchise was constantly refunding subsidies due to fare revenue being higher than expected. So it's very similar to the operator getting £1 in 2014 and then giving 63p back in 2015!

If you want to argue subsided trains are competing with commercial buses then you really need to obtain more detailed figures about how much individual train services cost to operate. Even if a specific rail route makes a small loss it might be comparable to a bus route where just the evening and Sunday services are subsided.