[Archive] Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[childwallblues]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(21/07/2016 17:55)SL64 JDZ Wrote:  319219 and 319448 were photographed heading to Wolverton for refurbishment a couple of days ago

https://www.flickr.com/photos/garstangpost/27839487533/
Photo credit: garstangpost.t21

And 319004 and 319442 moved to Wolverton the following day (20th).

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Full Northern franchise agreement has been released: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/sy...eement.pdf

Observations I've made:
- As well as the widely reported cascades there are additional 150s coming from GWR in April 2019 (when the Direct Award ends) which include 2 x 3 car 150s. A further 24 150s will be reformed in to 3 car sets, the 150/2 carriages which are used as centre carriages will have their toilets removed.
- 18 x 2 car 170s (or equivalent trains to 170s) are to join the fleet in 2022.
- 12 x 319s will join the fleet but 5 will only be on temporary leases until the final batch of 331s are introduced.
- Platform lengthening plans indicate 3 car 150s will be used on the Penistone and Knottingley lines and that 4 car 150s will be used on Liverpool to Manchester via Warrington stoppers.
- Platform lengthening plans mention 5 carriage trains with carriages 23m in length will need to be accommodated on the Clitheroe, Southport and Kirkby lines from 2019 - possibly an indication of 3 car 158s transferring west given the 153s are being released? (Southport to Leeds is to get 3 car 170s from Scotrail along with Leeds to York via Harrogate.)
- The 150s, 155s, 156s and 319s will not be getting new seats but will be getting re-padded seats with new seat covers. All those classes will lose some seats due to accessibility improvements.
- All 158s will be refurbished to 'Northern Connect' standard, not just the ones being used on North East Northern Connect routes. They will gain 4-5 seats as part of the refurbishment.
- The 323s will leave Northern at the end of 2018. There won't be any released by Northern in time for Midlands electrification schemes.
- The new CAF trains will have 124 seats per 2 car set, 204 per 3 car set and 284 per 4 car set.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Surprised this afternoon to see 150139 working the 1530 Preston - Liverpool South Parkway. Are there some 319's off at present?

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(29/07/2016 15:03)St Helens Rider Wrote:  Surprised this afternoon to see 150139 working the 1530 Preston - Liverpool South Parkway. Are there some 319's off at present?

2x319s failed today

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Thanks Gordon.

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(29/07/2016 15:06)Gordon V Wrote:  2x319s failed today

These failures have lead to the cancellations of the 1216 and 1516 services to Manchester Airports. I hope the 8 class 319 from GTR will come to Northern as soon as possible.

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(29/07/2016 15:54)boby32 Wrote:  These failures have lead to the cancellations of the 1216 and 1516 services to Manchester Airports. I hope the 8 class 319 from GTR will come to Northern as soon as possible.

They also caused the cancellation of the 1720 Lime St-Man Vic also

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(29/07/2016 15:57)Gordon V Wrote:  They also caused the cancellation of the 1720 Lime St-Man Vic also

The 1616 service to Manchester Airport had to terminate at Picaddily because of a train fault.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y1...9/advanced

[Gordon V]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(29/07/2016 17:24)boby32 Wrote:  The 1616 service to Manchester Airport had to terminate at Picaddily because of a train fault.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y1...9/advanced

319369 unit problems

[boby32]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(29/07/2016 17:26)Gordon V Wrote:  319369 unit problems

Which units have failed today apart from this one?