Arriva North West - St Helens Depot

[tinytears87]

RE: Arriva North West - St Helens Depot
Another change to the 33's is being discussed but won't happen before September if it comes off at all ! January would be the date for that, but management are not keen on this change at all, the union and rota men want it ! This would see the Widnes just being a stand alone service, now that i do agree with :-)

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Arriva North West - St Helens Depot
I know there is talk of the St Helens - Widnes section becoming a Quality Partnership, although given the state of the 33's at the moment, Quality is not a word I'd use!

[Valandil]

RE: Arriva North West - St Helens Depot

(28/06/2013 11:09)St Helens Rider Wrote:  I know there is talk of the St Helens - Widnes section becoming a Quality Partnership, although given the state of the 33's at the moment, Quality is not a word I'd use!

What are the issues with the 33's at the moment?
I know that the renumbering was a bit dodgy; is there anything else?

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Arriva North West - St Helens Depot
Mostly down to tinetabling and reliability. Not ebough time is mostly the problem with regular capacity issues. Never was a wise idea to reduce the frequency at the same time as reducing the size of vehicle.

[tinytears87]

RE: Arriva North West - St Helens Depot
You hit the nail on the head there Ste ;-)

[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

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the thing that seems to make the widnes 33 late is they come of the 33 from sutton mannor and thats always late, if they split the longs and shorts i think it would work better overall

[M60lad]

RE: Arriva North West - St Helens Depot
A route that might be a good idea for St Helens is a Warrington-St Helens via Winwick Road, Gemini & Burtonwood and St Helens Hospital via a similar route to what Fairways 339 used to take before they went out of business as despite what people think the 339 was a busy route, I was talking about this with Motormayhem last night and we were in agreement that if only management would listen that it could probably work

[St Helens Rider]

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I'm surprised no operator took on the route when callapsed, hardly ever seen an empty bus on that route and the fact the route extended to Hard Lane served a very useful purpose and worked as a more recent replacement for the 6.

[wirralbus]

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The problem is management these days dont seem to listen to the staff , they just use there computer based cost benefit analysis software to see whether it would be pay or not .

Nothing better for morale in a workforce to include employee's in the process.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Arriva North West - St Helens Depot
2714 on 33 today - normally only Solos on a Saturday. The journey I caught was well filled with only 2 or 3 seats free - a Solo would not have coped with this load.