2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: 2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades

(24/01/2022 22:25)M113 YKC Wrote:  Reduced service on 60/61, plus 52s are still reduced by 4 buses pre-covid. Some 56/62/63 need deckers for school trips. Lots of complaints about overcrowding on single deckers. Hopefully with extra deckers and the slight reduced service on 60rd to help with driver shortage, all trips will operate and help prevent overcrowding too.

I'm not disputing the overcrowding but it's hard to understand why Bootle give the 62 and 63 majority or full decker allocations while the 52 and 52A regularly gets single deckers. Even with the four extra Enviro400s there's still single deckers on the 52 and 52A today. Those routes need the deckers far more than the 62 and 63 in my opinion

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: 2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades

(25/01/2022 12:48)MX12CFE Wrote:  Saw a couple of Southport links branded pulsars heading along the A570 past Edge hill university towards St Helens yesterday. Could these be going for P&P before transfer to another depot assuming theyve been replaced at Southport by the new Streetlites? Thanks.

Several are going to Arriva North East with another transferring to Runcorn

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

RE: 2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades
4678-80 - Green Lane > Speke

[The Falcon]

RE: 2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades

(24/01/2022 20:25)NathanR Wrote:  Should it ever occur that a StreetDeck ends up on a route away from the 10B/14, will they be loaded with NSA's for other routes or not? Thanks in advance.

First StreetDeck on a 13 today at Tuebrook. Didn’t catch the fleet number.

They can operate on other routes as the next stop audio is only programmed for the 14/10b

[Y458 KNF]

RE: 2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades

(25/01/2022 20:35)The Falcon Wrote:  First StreetDeck on a 13 today at Tuebrook. Didn’t catch the fleet number.

They can operate on other routes as the next stop audio is only programmed for the 14/10b

There was 2 on there today not surprising that they’ll end up on other routes it will happen again sooner than later

[MPTE1955]

RE: 2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades
I seen one on the 9 in the city centre at about 6.

[M113 YKC]

RE: 2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades

(25/01/2022 13:28)SK15 GZG Wrote:  I'm not disputing the overcrowding but it's hard to understand why Bootle give the 62 and 63 majority or full decker allocations while the 52 and 52A regularly gets single deckers. Even with the four extra Enviro400s there's still single deckers on the 52 and 52A today. Those routes need the deckers far more than the 62 and 63 in my opinion

I agree. The depot situation isn't ideal so sometimes there's limited deckers available to be allocated out at one time. But there are some trips on 62/63 that have a full standing load, not necessarily the same board for the morning and afternoon so a few boards need the deckers.

[Barney]

RE: 2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades

(25/01/2022 21:14)M113 YKC Wrote:  I agree. The depot situation isn't ideal so sometimes there's limited deckers available to be allocated out at one time. But there are some trips on 62/63 that have a full standing load, not necessarily the same board for the morning and afternoon so a few boards need the deckers.

The 63 is a half-hourly service that serves several schools and certainly requires deckers during term time. Unlike the 52/52A, it does not run alongside alternative services along large sections of its route. If a single-deck 63 goes past full there is a 30-minute wait for the next bus.

[Busmadperson]

RE: 2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades
4649 is now at Southport depot unsure if 4650 is yet

[trixmax2000]

RE: 2021/22 Arriva North West orders & subsequent cascades

(25/01/2022 13:31)SK15 GZG Wrote:  Several are going to Arriva North East with another transferring to Runcorn

Here are the new fleet number for the ones that have gone to the NE
3082 1537
3083 1538
3084 1539
3085 1540
3086 1541
3087 1542
3088 1543