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Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
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RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
The main route though was the 264 which ran through to Victoria (baring in mind this is pre-Metrolink days when there was no real direct link to Victoria from Altrincham). |
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RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
Thank you Mike & St Helens Rider for your info about routes 263 & 264. |
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RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
(02/05/2020 15:24)Metroline1511 Wrote: Thank you Mike & St Helens Rider for your info about routes 263 & 264. No problems Metroline anytime, the next series of routes is purely chilling 95% of the routes have been severely cut or changed and with about 50% of the original service area not replaced you might have guessed it, the Next Series of Numbers is 300 - 399. |
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RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
Once again if you see something wrong with these comprassions list please let me know so I can fix the errors. Today we explore the 300 - 399 series which took passengers all around Tameside and Stockport, it even taken them on scenic rambles out towards Derbyshire and beyond. They connected the mazes off estates and linked the commuter routes together. they took people to hospitals for visiting and appointments. Today the network is looking more like a preschool has designed it and you will be very lucky to have scenic ramble of some of the former scenic rambles routes and the local estates around Stockport and Tameside now have rabbit warren of Fresh air routes and no decent terminal points. Which routes would you like to see back and do you agree that Deregulation has had bad impact on Stockport and Tameside Alone after comparing both networks 300 | Wilmslow - Wythenshawe Hospital via Airport | Partly Replaced by 312, 368 301 | Stockport - Bredbury via Carrington Road | Partly Replaced by 382 304 | Wigan - Lower Adlington via Charnock Heath | 305 | Stockport - Stepping Hill Hospital via Hempshaw Ln | Partly Replaced by 314, 358, 383/384, 373 306 | Stockport - Offerton Estate via Hempshaw Ln | Partly Replaced by 314, 358, 383/384. 375, 314 307 | Stockport Circular via Bramhall | Partly Replaced by 11a, 307, 310, 313, 307, 192 308 | Stockport Circular via Bramhall | Partly Replaced by 192, 307, 313, 310, 307, 11A 309 | Stockport Circular via Heald Green | Partly Replaced by 309, 374, 313, 312 310 | Wythenshawe Hospital - Ashton via Stockport | Partly Replaced by 11 327, 347 312 | Chorley Circular via Adlington 320 | Wigan - Liverpool Mann Island via St Helens | Curtailed at St Helens 323 | Brinnington - Reddish via North Way | 324 | Stockport - Romiley via Woodley | Partly Replaced by 327, 330, 382, 383, 384 325 | Stockport Circular via Brinnington North Way | Unchanged 326 | Brinnington - Stepping Hill Hospital via Romiley | Partly Replaced by 325, 327, 383/384, 375 326 | Wigan Circular via Roby Mill | Partly Replaced by 375, 3A, 327 | Bramhall North Park - Bridge Hall Estate via Edgeley | Partly Replaced by 372, 328, 327 | Chorley Circular via Apply Bridge 328 | Bridge Hall Estate - Bramhall North Park via Edgeley | Partly Replaced by 327, 372 329 | Stockport - Hattersley via Hyde | Partly Replaced by 330, 201 330 | Stockport - Ashton via Hyde | Unchanged 331 | Ashton Circular via Smallshaw | Partly Replaced by 336, 231 332 | Ashton Circular via Hartshead | Partly Replaced by 336, 396, 231, 333 | Ashton Circular via Smallshaw | Partly Replaced by 231, 337 334 | Ashton Circular via Hartshead | Partly Replaced by 231, 396, 337 339 | Ashton Circular via Dukinfield | Partly Replaced by 330, 221, 389, 41 340 | Ashton Circular via Dukinfield | Partly Replaced by 41, 389, 221, 330 341 | Ashton - Uppermill via Mossley | Partly Replaced by 357, 350 342 | Ashton - Uppermill via Stamford Old Rd | Partly Replaced by 357, 350 342 | Wigan - St Helens via Billinge | 343 | Gee Cross - Oldham via Hyde | Partly Replaced by 344, 343, 84 344 | Hyde - Carrbrook via Newton | Fully Replaced by 343 346 | Ashton - Hyde via Dukinfield | Unchanged 347 | Ashton - Haughton Green via Guide Road | Unchanged 348 | Ashton - Haughton Green via Opposite Loop | Merged with 347 349 | Dane Bank - Haughton Green via Denton | Partly Replaced by 205, 345, 347 350 | Ashton - Hey Farm via Mossley | Extended to Oldham via Saddleworth 351 | Ashton - Carrbrook via Copley Estate | Partly Replaced by 348, 343, 348 352 | Wigan - St Helens via Orrell | 352 | Ashton - Denshaw via Saddleworth | Partly Replaced by 350, 356, 350, 356 353 | Ashton - Uppermill via Mossley | Partly Replaced by 356 354 | Ashton - Uppermill via Friezland | Partly Replaced by 356 355 | Ashton - Oldham via Scouthead | Partly Replaced by 356, 350 356 | Marple Circular via New Mills | Partly Replaced by 358, 61, 199, 394 357 | Marple Circular via New Mills | Partly Replaced by 394, 199, 61, 358 358 | Stockport - Hayfield via Strines | Unchanged 359 | Stockport - Hawk Green via Marple | Replaced by the 375 360 | Stockport - Glossop via New Mills | 362 | Stockport - Glossop via Watford Bridge | 362 | Wigan - St Helens via Orrel | Present Day 352 363 | Stockport - Hayfield via Mellor | Partly Replaced by 375 365 | Stockport - Bosden Farm via Torkington | Partly Replaced by 360, 375, 364 365 | Huddersfield - Oldham via Uppermill | Fully Replaced by 84/184 367 | Hazel Grove Stn - Bosden Farm via Torkington | Partly Replaced by 373, 375, 364 368 | Reddish - Altrincham via Wythenshawe | Partly Replaced by 42A, 329, 368, 11 370 | Stockport - Altrincham via Northenden | Partly Replaced by 23, 41, 11A, 19, 11A 371 | Stockport - Altrincham via Cheadle | Partly Replaced by 11, 272, 11A 372 | Stockport - Cheadle via Cheadle Heath | Partly Replaced by 11, 307/308, 312, 309/310 375 | Stockport - Hazel Grove Stn via Crossway | Partly Replaced by 372, 374 376 | Reddish Fir Tree - Woodford via Bramhall | Partly Replaced by 329, 378, 42B 377 | Reddish Fir Tree - Wilmslow via Handforth | Partly Replaced by 329, 378, 313 [Wilmslow is no Longer served] 378 | Reddish Bulls Head - Wilmslow via Lacey Green | Partly Replaced by 329, 378, 313 [Wilmslow is no Longer Served] 379 | Stockport - Adswood Game Bird via Stanley Road | Partly Replaced by 313, 312, 307/308, 309/310 380 | Stockport - Schools Hill via Adswood | Partly Replaced by 309/310, 307/308, 312 383 | Stockport Circular via Marple | Partly Replaced by 375, 383 384 | Stockport Circular via Marple | Partly Replaced by 384, 375 385 | Wigan - Southport via Hall Green | 385 | Reddish - Romiley Gothic Farm via Stockport | Partly Replaced by 203, 383/384, 382 386 | Reddish - Greave via Harrytown | Partly Replaced by 203, 383/384, 382 388 | Ashton - Marple via Ridge Hill | Partly Replaced by 389, 346, 344, 330, 383/384 389 | Ashton - Marple via Ridge Hill | Partly Replaced by 389, 346, 344, 330, 383/384 390 | Hyde - Mottram via Walker Fold | Abandoned? 391 | Glossop - Padfield via Hadfield | 394 | Simmondley - Hazel Grove Stn via Chisworth | Partly Replaced by 341, 394, 374 398 | Glossop - Macclesfield Hospital | |
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RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
The 362 is the present 352. Interesting history with these routes over the years. They were extended to Chorley, then Preston, then reduced back to Chorley before Arriva split and simplifies them to the present day arrangement. |
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RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
(02/05/2020 18:15)St Helens Rider Wrote: The 362 is the present 352. Interesting history with these routes over the years. They were extended to Chorley, then Preston, then reduced back to Chorley before Arriva split and simplifies them to the present day arrangement. Thank St Helens Rider, I hope you enjoying theses comprassions I'm doing and Where I leave the modern day replacement blank if because they are cross boundary routes and I'm not familiar with them. I will be taking a little break with theses and the next ones might be released next weekend as we move into 400-499 series of routes. |
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RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
Today will be exploring the 400 - 499 series of routes that GM Buses Introduced on 26th October 1986 and will be comparing the network against the network that is currently operating as of April 2020. We discover that this series of routes have pretty much been torn apart since it was first it introduced on 26th October 1986, we found the core problems as to why bus travel is falling in North Manchester due to excessive cuts and changes to the services that once resident could get direct service might now have to get several services to their final destination and we discover that we have had at least 6 routes completely abandoned and a few routes merged together. As with all theses routes series comprassions I have posted which routes do you miss and do you fully believe that when regulation of bus services happen again do you think TFGM should be restoring the 1986 routes to simplify the network or does the network need a complete rewrite when TFGM regalate the buses again. 400 | Bolton - Stockport via Oldham | Partly Replaced by 471, 409, 347, 206, 203 401 | Wigan - Oldham via Middleton | Partly Replaced by 7, 559, 7, 471, 163, 59 402 | Warrington - Bolton via Leigh | Partly Replaced by 22/360, 34, 582 403 | Bolton - Leeds via Rochdale | 404 | Sholver - Middleton via Chadderton Hall | Partly Replaced by 82/83, 402. 149, 59 405 | Sholver - Limeside Lime Green Road via Chapel Road | Partly Replaced by 82/83, 183, 149, 76, 183 406 | Sholver - Limeside Lime Green Road via Elm Rd | Partly Replaced by 82/83, 183 408 | Stalybridge - Oldham via Hurst | Partly Replaced by 348, 231, 425 409 | Rochdale - Ashton via Oldham | Unchanged 410 | Turks Head - Ashton via Oldham | Merged with 409 411 | Shaw - Oldham via Buckstones | Fully replaced by 408 412 | Derker - Middleton via Royton | Partly Replaced by 402, 59 415 | Oldham - Middleton via Alkrington | Unchanged 419 | Woodhouses - Failsworth via Pole Lane | Partly Replaced by 159, 83, 159 421 | Moston - Fitton Hill via Werneth | Partly Replaced by 81, 415, 426 422 | Oldham - South Chadderton via Chamber Rd | Partly replaced by 183, 149, 81 (The Long Ln to Butterworth Lane loop have been severed by the M60 Construction. 425 | Holts Estate Course View - Oldham via Park Road Loop | Partly replaced by 425 426 | Holts Estate Course View - Oldham via Glodwick Loop | Partly Replaced by 425 427 | Hollinwood - Diggle via Uppermill | Partly Replaced by 84, 350, 356, 428 | Ashton - Moston Ferranti Works via Garden Suburbs | Partly Replaced by 409, 396, 84, 181 431 | Rochdale Circular via Deeplish | Partly Replaced by 6, R7, 17 432 | Rochdale - Sudden via Ashfield Valley | Abandoned 433 | Rochdale Circular via Turf Hill | Partly Replaced by R7, 409 (Deeplish is no longer served) 434 | Rochdale Circular via Turf Hill | Partly Replaced by 409, R7 (Deeplish is no longer served) 435 | Rochdale - Buckstones via High Crompton | Unchanged 436 | Rochdale Circular via Kirkholt | Partly Replaced by 6, R7, 17 437 | Rochdale Circular via Kirkholt | Partly Replaced by 17, R7, 6 438 | Rochdale - Daniel Fold via Spotland | Partly Replaced by 467 (Daniel Fold no longer served) 439 | Rochdale Stn - Lane Head | Abandoned 440 | Rochdale Stn - Syke Chapel via Fieldhouse Mill | Partly Replaced by 471, R13, R1 443 | Rochdale - Castleton Chesham Drive | Abandoned 447 | Rochdale - Wallbank via Healey | Fully replaced by R13 449 | Rochdale - Wardle via Low Hill | Fully replaced by 456 450 | Rochdale - Littleborough via Hollingworth Lake | Partly Replaced by 457, 458, 457 451 | Rochdale - Peppermint bridge via Milnrow | Partly Replaced by 58. R5 452 | Rochdale - Littleborough Clough Road | Abandoned 453 | Hollingworth Lake - Wardle via Birch Hill | Partly Replaced by 458. 456 454 | Rochdale - Shore va Littleborough | Fully Replaced by 588 456 | Milnrow - Littleborough via Rochdale | Abandoned 457 | Rochdale - Stansfield via Shore | Fully Replaced by 588 464 | Rochdale - Accrington via Bacup | Unchanged 465 | Rochdale - Bacup via Whitworth | Merged with 464 466 | Rochdale - Rawtenstall via Mettlecote | Merged with 464 468 | Hopwood - Darn Hill via Heywood | Partly Replaced by B4, R2, 163 470 | Bury - Rochdale via Darn Hill | Partly Replaced by 163, 471 471 | Bury - Rochdale via Bury New Rd | Extended to Bolton 472 | Bury - Rawtenstall via Walmersley | 473 | Bury - Nangreaves via Walmersley | Partly Replaced by B2 474 | Bury - Edenfield via Holcombe Brook | Partly Replaced by 474, 273 475 | Bury - Tottington via Greenmount | Abandoned 476 | Bury - Edenfield via Greenmount | Partly Replaced by B1, 273 477 | Bury - Holcombe Village via Summerseat | Partly Replaced by B1 478 | Bury - Topping Folds via Bell Lane | Partly Replaced by 467, B4 479 | Rochdale - Tottington via Bury | Partly Replaced by 468, 469 480 | Bury - Walves via Tottington Road | Partly Replaced by 469, TA2 481 | Bury - Shuttleworth via Tottington | Partly Replaced by 480, 273, x41 482 | Bury - Edenfield via Holcombe Brook | Partly Replaced by 472/474, 273 484 | Tottington - Eccles via Radcliffe | Partly Replaced by 480, 511, 91, 512, 513, 95, 484 492 | Bury - Chesham | Partly Replaced by B2 497 | Whitefield - Kersal Bar via Prestwich | Partly Replaced by 135, 95, 97, 135, 94, 90, 94, 484, 96 498 | Bury - Simister via Unsworth | Partly Replaced by 92, 97, 484, 92, 484, 135, 94, 90 499 | Bury - Hornby Street | Abandoned I’m nearing the end of this comprassions as I only got 500-599 | 600-699 | Misc Routes | Letters Routes to do then after that all been done I love to go further back in time to compare the Selnec Network to today's network and The last day of GMPTE Network before it become GM Buses but I haven’t got the materials to do that so I was wondering if anyone has any guides, knowledge or websites where I can get SELNEC routes and GMPTE Routes which operated on the last day before deregulation so I can compare them to the modern day network. It would be very appreciated. |
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RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
The 402 is part replaced by the 582, 34, 360/22 although none of these routes are Express these days. A link of this nature could work now if the will was there as it appears to be a very useful link. |
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RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
(08/05/2020 09:10)St Helens Rider Wrote: The 402 is part replaced by the 582, 34, 360/22 although none of these routes are Express these days. A link of this nature could work now if the will was there as it appears to be a very useful link. Yes I totally agree with you that it would be good to reintroduce this service and it could be operated by Warrington Buses to provide some buses for the 715 tender they gained |
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RE: Greater Manchester Buses on Dereg Day 1986 vs Apr 2020 Network
What about the 372 St Helens-Wigan via Tontine? Bring Back Arriva Skelmersdale |
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