Northern (Arriva Rail North)

[mikestone]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(29/05/2019 21:02)St Helens Rider Wrote:  The only remaining problem that's within Northern's control is the reduced/very unreliable Sunday services. Hopefully the change of some timetables in the coming months (September in the case of Liverpool - Wigan - Blackpool) will resolve this.

How will re-instating the trains withdrawn because of lack of volunteers resove anything?
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Having said that on the last two Sundays there appeared to be no pre-planned cancellations.

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(11/06/2019 20:34)mikestone Wrote:  How will re-instating the trains withdrawn because of lack of volunteers resove anything?
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Having said that on the last two Sundays there appeared to be no pre-planned cancellations.

It's rumoured ASLEF are in serious talks with Northern over a new contract.

[mikestone]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
December track access application has appeared - most existing Southport services cut back to Wallgate, and Wigan North Western - Stalybridge/Alderley Edge services extended to Southport.
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Hourly Sunday service on mid-Cheshire line.
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Elsewhere new hourly services Newcastle-Durham-Middlesbrough, York-Scarborough and Hull-Halifax, replacing the Bradford-Leeds portion of Leeds-Huddersfield services and Leeds-Selby trains.
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[T42 PVM (Moderator)]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(13/06/2019 15:55)mikestone Wrote:  December track access application has appeared - most existing Southport services cut back to Wallgate, and Wigan North Western - Stalybridge/Alderley Edge services extended to Southport.
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Hourly Sunday service on mid-Cheshire line.
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Elsewhere new hourly services Newcastle-Durham-Middlesbrough, York-Scarborough and Hull-Halifax, replacing the Bradford-Leeds portion of Leeds-Huddersfield services and Leeds-Selby trains.
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Where can these be viewed?

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(13/06/2019 17:35)T42 PVM Wrote:  Where can these be viewed?

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/industry-c...ss-rights/

Under Current track access applications and ARN 18th SA. It's not possible to link directly to the pdf.

Other changes are:
- A morning peak Macclesfield to Piccadilly stopper to start back at Stoke.
- Additional daily Whitby to Middlesbrough service.
- Sunday Leeds-Lancaster services extended to Morecambe.
- Additional 08:30 Blackburn to Preston service, replacing an ECS.

Obviously a thousand miles from the December 2019 timetable in the franchise agreement.

[mikestone]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
No sign either of the suggested Chester-Altrincham shuttle.
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The real question is why is no-one being held to account for Arriva bidding a train service that the infrastructure cannot support - not having provided additional infrastructure on the Castlefield corridor is barely relevant as the major losses are between Picc and Stockport or beyond and the Liverpool-Victoria-Hebden Bridge-Leeds Northern Connect service

[ant17612]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
195002 and 195112 are currently stabled on Wigan Carriage Sidings.

[knutstransport]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)

(13/06/2019 20:57)mikestone Wrote:  No sign either of the suggested Chester-Altrincham shuttle.
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The real question is why is no-one being held to account for Arriva bidding a train service that the infrastructure cannot support - not having provided additional infrastructure on the Castlefield corridor is barely relevant as the major losses are between Picc and Stockport or beyond and the Liverpool-Victoria-Hebden Bridge-Leeds Northern Connect service

For the May 2018 timetable change I'm sure Network Rail approved both a xx:09 and xx:41 from Piccadilly towards Greenbank but there was an issue getting a suitably time path for an additional service in the other direction, so when Northern realised they wouldn't have enough units they postponed 2tph on the Mid-Cheshire but went ahead with 2tph on the Buxton line, with Network Rail having approved all proposed Buxton paths. Since the May 2018 recast didn't go well Network Rail have been making up excuses like they aren't sure any more Piccadilly services can be introduced without affecting reliability (even though paths have been freed up by the North TPE changes and they've approved paths for an all day extension of the Llandudno-Piccadilly service to the airport.) A Chester to Altrincham shuttle got proposed as a temporary alternative but then Network Rail came up with excuses about not wanting extra services over farm level crossings - even though the times the local farms are most active are very early and late afternoon, where there's already extra services. Both Andy Burnham and Esther McVey (MP for Tatton) seem to think Network Rail's excuses are plausible - the latter believing everything Chris Grayling says. Weaver Vale MP Mike Amesbury thinks it's a load of rubbish but somehow people don't pay much attention to a Mancunian standing up on the opposition benches in parliament and talking about Northwich getting a better service to Manchester.

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
Strange stopping pattern this afternoon on the 1703 Blackpool North - Liverpool making extra calls at Salwick and Broad Green. Always thought Salwick was generally served by the odd Blackpool South service.

EDIT: Upon looking at the timetable, Broad Green is a stop for this journey but not Salwick.

[ant17612]

RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North)
323225 will work the 2052 Wigan North Western to Liverpool Lime Street.