Initial Arriva Merseyside network

[SK15 GZG (Moderator)]

Initial Arriva Merseyside network
I was wondering if anyone had a list of the original routes operated by Arriva Merseyside after taking over MTL North - particularly those which were in the Liverpool area as there's a few route numbers I can think of but I can't remember where the actual route itself went

MTIA

[B10B6514]

RE: Initial Arriva Merseyside network
From the Southport end:-
2 Crossens -Walnut Street
3 High Park-Carr Lane
4 Crossens-Woodvale
5 Kew-Clive Road
6 Kew-Clive Road
7 Russell Road-Carr Lane
8 Crossens-Woodvale
9 Crossens-Woodvale
17 Banks-Formby
25 Circular Tour seasonal
30 Southport-Pontins seasonal
34 Crossens-Lord Street
100 Southport-Preston
284 Crossens-Liverpool
300 Southport-Liverpool
375 Southport-Wigan
385 Southport-Wigan
X8 Banks- Chester

[MTL0201]

RE: Initial Arriva Merseyside network
The X8 had been split in Liverpool by the time Arriva brought MTL, the Arriva section was running Banks-Liverpool only.

[mr t]

RE: Initial Arriva Merseyside network

(21/04/2017 17:01)Y474 KNF Wrote:  I was wondering if anyone had a list of the original routes operated by Arriva Merseyside after taking over MTL North - particularly those which were in the Liverpool area as there's a few route numbers I can think of but I can't remember where the actual route itself went

MTIA

Before any changes were made in the April Liverpool was
1/1X Liverpool - Tower Hill (now 20)
2 Liverpool - Northwood (now 21)
3 Liverpool - Kirkby via Old Swan (old F3 now withdrawn
4/4X/5/5X Liverpool - Tower Hill (now 14A/14B)
6 Liverpool - Huyton (withdrawn)
8/9 Liverpool Huyton circulars
8D Liverpool - Huyton (now 10B)
10 Liverpool - St Helens
10A Liverpool - St Helens - Earlestown (now SH only)
12/13 Liverpool - Stockbridge Circulars
14 Liverpool - Croxteth
14A Liverpool - Kirkby admin peaks
14B Liverpool - Gillmoss
17B Liverpool - Broadway via Great Homer
17C Liverpool - Fazakerley same as 17
17D Liverpool - Fazakerley via Scotland Rd
18 Liverpool - Crosby (now 53)
18A Liverpool - Croxteth Park
18C Liverpool - Fazakerley (old 218)
19 Liverpool - Tower Hill
19B Liverpool - Northwood
19C Liverpool - Kirkby Admin
19E Liverpool - Gillmoss
20/20D Aigburth - Tower Hill
26/27 Sheil Road Circs
30 Liverpool - Netherton via Rice Lane/Aintree
32 (ANW) Liverpool - Runcorn (north West, now 82A)
33 Liverpool - Halewood (same as 86 to Springwood)
33A Liverpool - Allerton Library (same as 86)
35 Liverpool - Halewood (now 75)
38 Liverpool - Halewood (as 79 to Belle Vale then Halewood Road/Mackets Lane)
40 Liverpool - Huyton (now 7)
44/45 (ANW) Bootle - Litherland (now 144/145)
49/49A Broadgreen Hosp - St Helens (now 139)
53 Liverpool - THornton
55 (ANW) Liverpool - Old Roan
55A (ANW) Liverpool - Netherton
55B (ANW) Bootle - Netherton
56 (ANW) Liverpool- Netherton
60 Bootle - Aigburth
61/61A Bootle - Aigburth (61A via Netherton)
68 Aigburth - Bootle
78 Liverpool - Halewood
79 Liverpool - Netherley
79C Liverpool - Netherley Caldway Drive (then extended to Runcorn)
79A Liverpool - Lee Park
79D Liverpool - Netherley via London Rd
80 Liverpool - Speke
80A Liverpool - Airport
81 Bootle - Speke
82 (MTL) Liverpool - Speke
82 (ANW) Netherton - city - Speke
82A Liverpool - Garston
86 (MTL) Liverpool - Garston
86 (ANW) Thornton - City - Garston
86A Liverpool - GArston
89 Speke - St Helens
90 Kirkby - St Helens
90 (ANW) Liverpool - Crosby
91 Liverpool - Waterloo
92 Crosby - Penny Lane (now 62)
137 Liverpool - Crosby Hall Road
210 Liverpool - Huyton (as 10B)
212 Liverpool - Huyton (as 12 to SBridge)
255 Liverpool - Netherton (as 55A)
258 Stockbridge - Huyton - Prescot
261/262 Liverpool - Netherton - Huyton
274/275 Liverpool - Huyton Circulars (as 8/9 to Huyton then to Green Lane then down West Derby Rd and reverse)
284 Liverpool - Southport
300 (ANW) Liverpool - Southport
345 (ANW) Liverpool - Skelmersdale
350 (ANW) Liverpool - Maghull
351 (ANW) Liverpool - Maghull
X8 (ANW) Liverpool - Southport

ANW means the original Arriva North West License that was originally used for Bootle/Skelm/Runcorn before the shake up and services combined. All the others are MTL routes

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Initial Arriva Merseyside network
I'm pretty sure it was the 10 which went through to Earlestown as it was always worked from St Helens depot and 10A was worked from Green Lane and thus only ran to St Helens (although North Western in the 90's did run the 10A through to Parr).

[MTL0201]

RE: Initial Arriva Merseyside network
I thought the 10 went to Ashton, 10A was Parr but operated by North Western/Arriva, i don't think the Merseybus 10A ever went the other side of St Helens, i remember Merseybus 14 Earlstown-Prescot via Rainhill.

[motormayhem1]

RE: Initial Arriva Merseyside network
CMT and GTL also ran through to parr also on the 10A.

[mr t]

RE: Initial Arriva Merseyside network
Sorry it was The 10 was to Earlestown (was cut from Ashton in July 99, then St Helens April 2000, when the 14 Prescot-St Helens replaced it)
10A was only to St Helens
In the mid 90s the North Western 10A did operate to Parr, then CmT started again around 02/03

[MX12CFE]

RE: Initial Arriva Merseyside network

(22/08/2017 19:24)mr t Wrote:  Before any changes were made in the April Liverpool was
1/1X Liverpool - Tower Hill (now 20)
2 Liverpool - Northwood (now 21)
3 Liverpool - Kirkby via Old Swan (old F3 now withdrawn
4/4X/5/5X Liverpool - Tower Hill (now 14A/14B)
6 Liverpool - Huyton (withdrawn)
8/9 Liverpool Huyton circulars
8D Liverpool - Huyton (now 10B)
10 Liverpool - St Helens
10A Liverpool - St Helens - Earlestown (now SH only)
12/13 Liverpool - Stockbridge Circulars
14 Liverpool - Croxteth
14A Liverpool - Kirkby admin peaks
14B Liverpool - Gillmoss
17B Liverpool - Broadway via Great Homer
17C Liverpool - Fazakerley same as 17
17D Liverpool - Fazakerley via Scotland Rd
18 Liverpool - Crosby (now 53)
18A Liverpool - Croxteth Park
18C Liverpool - Fazakerley (old 218)
19 Liverpool - Tower Hill
19B Liverpool - Northwood
19C Liverpool - Kirkby Admin
19E Liverpool - Gillmoss
20/20D Aigburth - Tower Hill
26/27 Sheil Road Circs
30 Liverpool - Netherton via Rice Lane/Aintree
32 (ANW) Liverpool - Runcorn (north West, now 82A)
33 Liverpool - Halewood (same as 86 to Springwood)
33A Liverpool - Allerton Library (same as 86)
35 Liverpool - Halewood (now 75)
38 Liverpool - Halewood (as 79 to Belle Vale then Halewood Road/Mackets Lane)
40 Liverpool - Huyton (now 7)
44/45 (ANW) Bootle - Litherland (now 144/145)
49/49A Broadgreen Hosp - St Helens (now 139)
53 Liverpool - THornton
55 (ANW) Liverpool - Old Roan
55A (ANW) Liverpool - Netherton
55B (ANW) Bootle - Netherton
56 (ANW) Liverpool- Netherton
60 Bootle - Aigburth
61/61A Bootle - Aigburth (61A via Netherton)
68 Aigburth - Bootle
78 Liverpool - Halewood
79 Liverpool - Netherley
79C Liverpool - Netherley Caldway Drive (then extended to Runcorn)
79A Liverpool - Lee Park
79D Liverpool - Netherley via London Rd
80 Liverpool - Speke
80A Liverpool - Airport
81 Bootle - Speke
82 (MTL) Liverpool - Speke
82 (ANW) Netherton - city - Speke
82A Liverpool - Garston
86 (MTL) Liverpool - Garston
86 (ANW) Thornton - City - Garston
86A Liverpool - GArston
89 Speke - St Helens
90 Kirkby - St Helens
90 (ANW) Liverpool - Crosby
91 Liverpool - Waterloo
92 Crosby - Penny Lane (now 62)
137 Liverpool - Crosby Hall Road
210 Liverpool - Huyton (as 10B)
212 Liverpool - Huyton (as 12 to SBridge)
255 Liverpool - Netherton (as 55A)
258 Stockbridge - Huyton - Prescot
261/262 Liverpool - Netherton - Huyton
274/275 Liverpool - Huyton Circulars (as 8/9 to Huyton then to Green Lane then down West Derby Rd and reverse)
284 Liverpool - Southport
300 (ANW) Liverpool - Southport
345 (ANW) Liverpool - Skelmersdale
350 (ANW) Liverpool - Maghull
351 (ANW) Liverpool - Maghull
X8 (ANW) Liverpool - Southport

ANW means the original Arriva North West License that was originally used for Bootle/Skelm/Runcorn before the shake up and services combined. All the others are MTL routes

The 75 originally ran Liverpool-Huyton but was changed to 15 and the 75 was used to renumber Halewood route 35

[St Helens Rider]

RE: Initial Arriva Merseyside network

(23/08/2017 00:37)mr t Wrote:  Sorry it was The 10 was to Earlestown (was cut from Ashton in July 99, then St Helens April 2000, when the 14 Prescot-St Helens replaced it)
10A was only to St Helens
In the mid 90s the North Western 10A did operate to Parr, then CmT started again around 02/03

I thought so as I remember it was one of the final haunts for the National 2's upon Arriva's takeover. The North Western 10A Parr extension ran through to Parr Terminus (Derbyshire Hill Road/Fleet Lane) whereas CMT's later extension only went as far as the Horseshoe Pub (Broad Oak Road/Newton Road roundabout).