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RE: Stagecoach Chester & Wirral - mtl97 - 24/06/2015 16:17

helms have registered 22 between chester gorse stacks & heswall starting 1st september


RE: Stagecoach Chester & Wirral - YN05 WKE - 24/06/2015 16:41

PC0003713/11 - JOHN CHERRY T/A AINTREE COACHLINE, 17 ATLAS WAY, ELLESMERE PORT, CH66 1TL
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Gorse Stacks, Chester City Centre
Finish Point: Heswall Bus Station
Via: Neston
Service Number: 22
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 01-SEP-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday (excluding bank holidays)


RE: Stagecoach Chester & Wirral - Turbostar - 25/06/2015 11:16

It seems like the honeymoon period following the Stagecoach takeover of Chester is well & truly over. Reduced frequencies on several local services (the 5 to Huntington being a notable exception), cuts to route X8 & now abandonment of X22. No obvious new plans in the pipeline either.

One wonders what's next to go?


RE: Stagecoach Chester & Wirral - FC Pictures - 25/06/2015 11:23

(25/06/2015 11:16)Turbostar Wrote:  It seems like the honeymoon period following the Stagecoach takeover of Chester is well & truly over. Reduced frequencies on several local services (the 5 to Huntington being a notable exception), cuts to route X8 & now abandonment of X22. No obvious new plans in the pipeline either.

One wonders what's next to go?

The park and ride contracts are probably the key to the survival of Stagecoach in Chester,if they don`t retain them there is little profit left for them


RE: Stagecoach Chester & Wirral - R879 HRF - 25/06/2015 11:35

(25/06/2015 11:16)Turbostar Wrote:  It seems like the honeymoon period following the Stagecoach takeover of Chester is well & truly over. Reduced frequencies on several local services (the 5 to Huntington being a notable exception), cuts to route X8 & now abandonment of X22. No obvious new plans in the pipeline either.

One wonders what's next to go?

If they're investing however much into routes 1 and 2 to upgrade them to 'Gold' standard, providing it goes ahead, then id say the opposite.

Clearly they've tried new ground and altered frequency on various services to try and encourage new bus users, but if its proving to run at a loss or even just about breaking even, then they'll have to cut back or there would be no service at all. Use it or lose it!

With the X22, from what ive been told, when Avon operated the route, they weren't running it at a loss or a profit, it was there about breaking even, so it was being run literally to provide a service. Big companies generally arnt interested in anything unless it has good profit in it.

Don't forget money has still been invested in the Wirral at least- although not that the public can see, but Birkenhead depot has had all the offices, staff messrooms (both engineering and drivers), toilets and reception area all refurbished. And huge money has been spent on the engineering side too, including a complete rebuild of the inspection pits which have been made deeper, wider and longer - (interestingly the length of a MegaBus... future potential?), and a new chassis wash has been installed along with a new locker and shower room.

Its been mentioned that Rock Ferry at least, unsure of Chester, is proving to be making profit and has been transformed since the sale of First, would they really invest all that money if they didn't have some big plans somewhere in the pipeline? Why spend the extra money for pits much bigger than any standard service bus without good reason?

Stagecoach know what they're doing and have proved so nationwide (generally), if it doesn't make money, its gone.


RE: Stagecoach Chester & Wirral - YN05 WKE - 25/06/2015 12:17

Any news on P&R yet?


RE: Stagecoach Chester & Wirral - wirralbus - 25/06/2015 14:31

Could the 1 and 2 become a joint operation when they go Gold .


RE: Stagecoach Chester & Wirral - R879 HRF - 25/06/2015 15:17

Clearly they've got some sort of plan, because wasn't it mentioned a while ago they've bought land on parkgate road in Chester?


RE: Stagecoach Chester & Wirral - PO59 MXJ - 25/06/2015 15:23

The number 5 frequency has been increased. This time last year it was every 30mins, then every 20mins and now its every 15. Could be due to the new housing estate being built in Huntington, obviously someone sees potential in it. Dont forget that Helms took the 45/46 off so no doubt Stagecoachs 5 is getting the revenue off them not running. Chesters engineering department is getting money invested in it, they are getting a new wash and new stock. Chester has been turned around sinse the takeover and is working at a profit, its not going to shut, dont worry.


RE: Stagecoach Chester & Wirral - wirralbus - 25/06/2015 16:46

Just needs a slightly bigger piece of land to park its buses as when its near full its bulging at the seams .