the front reminds me of Caertano lights dont like that odd front and back colour
(03/02/2014 10:20)E208 WBG Wrote: [ -> ]the front reminds me of Caertano lights dont like that odd front and back colour
That's a great find Jamaal.
It looks to be wearing some kind of front and rear mask to disguise the lines of the body, like car manufacturers do when they test prototypes - particularly clear around the front.
It's a strange design, definitely - although it looks better resolved at the rear now I think, even with the huge bonnet vent.
It's not Caetano lights at the front - it's Plaxton Centro ones! And the top deck window now looks very similar to a President.
Difficult to know exactly what's changed as the vinyls do a good job of breaking up the body lines.
Rear Reminds me of that MCV Decker
The front looks like a weird mix of the MCV DD103 and those BYD single deckers in London, not a big fan at the moment.
For me it looks very nice on first glance. Perhaps not as attractive as its predecessor but nowhere near as much of a step down as expected based on the photos of the demonstrator earlier in this thread.
I must say though, my view on styling is the opposite: for me it is the Wright models that look dated. I've always thought the Enviro400 was a very modern looking bus and was surprised they have been looking to change it. Internally, the Enviro400s' upper deck is a lot more spacious than the Geminis and hopefully they don't compromise that with this redesign.
Having said that, the Wright Gemini 2s with DB300 chassis at Speke do rattle a lot less than their Enviro400 counterparts at Bootle and offer a smoother ride overall. The same applies with Pulsars versus Enviro300s. I'd say that in general the Enviro family looks better than Wright products, but rides worse. Perhaps that will change with these new models.
(03/05/2014 13:22)Busser Wrote: [ -> ]Its still an improvement on the now old style enviro 400 which i kinda like the interior of but still don't like the front on the outside as it looks out of date in fact the old style enviro 400 especially the front looked out of date even when it was new, It looked more like a 90s design to me.
Agree 100%
Really like that new front end. Looks loads smarter, the Enviro400's currently in service all look like a product of the 1990s,that new design really brings them into the present!
I'm definitely a fan of the new design. Plenty more photos in the downloadable PDF too for anyone that's not caught it yet. Certainly look forward to their ambitious claim of it being a rattle-free bus!
Certainly it should be an 'operator's bus' with their seemingly extensive research with customers. Just a shame there doesn't seem to be as great an emphasis on passenger feedback in the write-up though.