Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising

[MTL0201]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising
Saw an Ultroliner on type training in Moreton earlier.

[MTL0201]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising
Thinking again, would it be better getting rid of the Saughall Massie double run on the 38A [438A] & run it direct between Moreton & Meols as 38 [438], seeing as other routes 417 & new 483/484 are going to cover Saughall Massie area in the evening & Sunday along with the 1B soon to be 403?

[Jw88]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising

(Yesterday 20:54)MTL0201 Wrote:  Thinking again, would it be better getting rid of the Saughall Massie double run on the 38A [438A] & run it direct between Moreton & Meols as 38 [438], seeing as other routes 417 & new 483/484 are going to cover Saughall Massie area in the evening & Sunday along with the 1B soon to be 403?

Does Saughall Massie need that many buses of a night? 4 routes is a large increase for the area considering the 38A and 1B are already lightly loaded during these hours. If timing allowed i would personally have the 407 doing a loop after Moreton Cross, through Town Meadow Lane and Millhouse Lane, then down to Saughall Masise, up Borrowdale Road before going back to Moreton cross and then onto Liverpool, have the 38/38A not serving Saughall Massie, but going straight to Meols and the 483/484 going via Overchurch to Moreton, not Saughall Massie. I would also withdraw evening 1B journeys, it runs at the same time as the 38A in both directions

I am also looking at the 91 (491) timetable, there is a morning journey that goes from Birkenhead to Prenton and just terminates in Prenton, it does not seem to interwork with anything, very odd.

[MTL0201]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising

(Today 12:50)Jw88 Wrote:  Does Saughall Massie need that many buses of a night? 4 routes is a large increase for the area considering the 38A and 1B are already lightly loaded during these hours. If timing allowed i would personally have the 407 doing a loop after Moreton Cross, through Town Meadow Lane and Millhouse Lane, then down to Saughall Masise, up Borrowdale Road before going back to Moreton cross and then onto Liverpool, have the 38/38A not serving Saughall Massie, but going straight to Meols and the 483/484 going via Overchurch to Moreton, not Saughall Massie. I would also withdraw evening 1B journeys, it runs at the same time as the 38A in both directions

I am also looking at the 91 (491) timetable, there is a morning journey that goes from Birkenhead to Prenton and just terminates in Prenton, it does not seem to interwork with anything, very odd.

They'd have to retime the 407 a few minutes earlier & scrap the extra Liverpool-Birkenhead Sunday daytime shorts if the 407 was to go via Saughall Massie, as it's timed for a 2 minute layover at Town Meadow before heading back to Liverpool.

The 38A evening & Sunday route was introduced in 2014, Avon withdrew the 40/40A a few weeks later.

Quite a few changes 2010-14 to the Moreton-West Kirby evening & Sunday services, as that was 186, then became 86 before being replaced by 38A, which killed 2 birds with 1 stone.