Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising

[gka472l]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising

(08/08/2026 21:11)DVG526 Wrote:  £647,000 per bus. Wow!

I suspect it's more than 4 on order from the amount of the contract.....don't think even electric deckers cost that much (between £400000 and £500000??)

[Raawwwrrr!]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising
Stagecoach route maps and timetables have appeared on bus times.org Here

Also shows the 11 bus stops of the X3

[MTL0201]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising
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[St Helens Rider]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising
Merseytravel have now listed the places/dates/times where people can talk to staff and get further information about the changes:

https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/bus/bus-changes/

Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

[MTL0201]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising
One thing i've been thinking of [mentioned it on another forum] the Bootle routes could do with sorting out where they pick up in the City Centre, as you have the current daft situation were the 47, 52, 52A, 53, 55, 58, 300 & X2 all terminate at Queen Square but on the way back the 47, 53, 300 & X2 pick up at Queen Square, but the 52, 52A, 55, 58 all pick up at Sir Thomas Street, that is annoying particularly in the Evenings.

Stand 12 at Queen Square only has one bus a day stopping there, wonder whether some of the Bootle routes that stop in Sir Thomas Street could be moved to there instead?

[wirralbus]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising
With the upcoming changes will be interesting to see how they update what is at present the awkward Merseytravel app where things have stopped working on it .

[Olympian2100]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising

(13/08/2026 19:51)MTL0201 Wrote:  One thing i've been thinking of [mentioned it on another forum] the Bootle routes could do with sorting out where they pick up in the City Centre, as you have the current daft situation were the 47, 52, 52A, 53, 55, 58, 300 & X2 all terminate at Queen Square but on the way back the 47, 53, 300 & X2 pick up at Queen Square, but the 52, 52A, 55, 58 all pick up at Sir Thomas Street, that is annoying particularly in the Evenings.

Stand 12 at Queen Square only has one bus a day stopping there, wonder whether some of the Bootle routes that stop in Sir Thomas Street could be moved to there instead?

I have often wondered why the 53 couldn't move to Stand 12 and the 47 move to Stand 11 to share with the X2, as they both go roughly the same way to Southport, thus leaving Stand 10 for the 300, 310 & 345, as they all serve the Black Bull and Aintree Retail Park.

[ste]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising

(13/08/2026 21:40)Olympian2100 Wrote:  I have often wondered why the 53 couldn't move to Stand 12 and the 47 move to Stand 11 to share with the X2, as they both go roughly the same way to Southport, thus leaving Stand 10 for the 300, 310 & 345, as they all serve the Black Bull and Aintree Retail Park.

I was under the impression Arriva didn't want to pay the fees to use the station so surely under Metro, that wouldn't be an issue?

[wirralbus]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising

(13/08/2026 19:51)MTL0201 Wrote:  One thing i've been thinking of [mentioned it on another forum] the Bootle routes could do with sorting out where they pick up in the City Centre, as you have the current daft situation were the 47, 52, 52A, 53, 55, 58, 300 & X2 all terminate at Queen Square but on the way back the 47, 53, 300 & X2 pick up at Queen Square, but the 52, 52A, 55, 58 all pick up at Sir Thomas Street, that is annoying particularly in the Evenings.

Stand 12 at Queen Square only has one bus a day stopping there, wonder whether some of the Bootle routes that stop in Sir Thomas Street could be moved to there instead?

It sounds like Stand 12 is the tactical spare to accommodate any services that have to be moved .

The change to Metro operation may allow services to be rearranged

[gka472l]

RE: Liverpool City Region Bus Franchising
Full list of the Ultroliners for St Helens, with all bar the 4 being used for training, being 76 plates...info from https://www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk/

18931 MF76DWK
18932 MF76DWL
18933 MF76DWM
18934 MF76DWN
18935 MD26XRL
18936 MD26XRM
18937 MF76DWO
18938 MF76DWP
18939 MF76DWU
18940 MF76DWV
18941 MF76DWW
18942 MF76DWX
18943 MF76DWY
18944 MF76DWZ
18945 MF76DXA
18946 MF76DXB
18947 MF76DXC
18948 MF76DXD
18949 MF76DXE
18950 MF76DXG
18951 MF76DXH
18952 MF76DXJ
18953 MF76DXK
18954 MF76DXL
18955 MF76DXM
18956 MF76DXO
18957 MF76DXP
18958 MF76DXR
18959 MD26XRN
18960 MF76DXS
18961 MD26XRO
18962 MF76DXT
18963 MF76DXU
18964 MF76DXV
18965 MF76DXW
18966 MF76DXX
18967 MF76DXY
18968 MF76DXZ
18969 MF76DYA
18970 MF76DYB
18971 MF76DYC
18972 MF76DYD
18973 MF76DYG
18974 MF76DYH
18975 MF76DYJ
18976 MF76DYM
18977 MF76DYN
18978 MF76DYO
18979 MF76DYP
18980 MF76DYS
18981 MF76DYT
18982 MF76DYU
18983 MF76DYV
18984 MF76DYW
18985 MF76DYX
18986 MF76DYY
18987 MF76DZA
18988 MF76DZB
18989 MF76DZC
18990 MF76DZD

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