Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot
Is there a chance Arriva could invest in new vehicles for Runcorn since it’s not part of franchising.

[gka472l]

RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot

(17/04/2026 10:14)Y458 KNF Wrote:  Is there a chance Arriva could invest in new vehicles for Runcorn since it’s not part of franchising.

I hear the current METRO E200MMC's at Birkenhead are planned to go to Runcorn at franchising on Wirral......

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot

(17/04/2026 18:43)gka472l Wrote:  I hear the current METRO E200MMC's at Birkenhead are planned to go to Runcorn at franchising on Wirral......

Assuming all Runcorn routes are staying as they are with the 329 & 360 transferring over I don’t think there is enough of them for a full fleet.

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot
Will Runcorn require extra vehicles to cover the 329 & 360?

[MTL0201]

RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot
I posted this on another forum but anyway, i'm not sure about Arriva's plans for interworking the 360 with the X30 when the 360 moves to Runcorn is a good idea.

I was on the X30 yesterday [11.03 from Warrington to Chester] the M56 westbound was gridlocked with a lot of the traffic migrating to the A56 through Preston Brook as an alternative, making the A56 & surrounding roads gridlocked as well, then add in congestion on the Hoole Road, that the X30 i was on arrived at Chester 40 minutes late at 13.06 [should have arrived at 12.26]. The return from Chester [which should have departed 12.31] was about 40 late throughout too & arrived in Warrington at 14.37 instead of 13.59.

It then struck me anytime the M56 goes belly up between Runcorn & the M53, traffic then migrates causing chaos to the A56 [& nearby roads] thus causes havoc with reliability to the X30, which will make things fun when the X30 interworks with the 360.

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot

(Today 10:38)MTL0201 Wrote:  I posted this on another forum but anyway, i'm not sure about Arriva's plans for interworking the 360 with the X30 when the 360 moves to Runcorn is a good idea.

I was on the X30 yesterday [11.03 from Warrington to Chester] the M56 westbound was gridlocked with a lot of the traffic migrating to the A56 through Preston Brook as an alternative, making the A56 & surrounding roads gridlocked as well, then add in congestion on the Hoole Road, that the X30 i was on arrived at Chester 40 minutes late at 13.06 [should have arrived at 12.26]. The return from Chester [which should have departed 12.31] was about 40 late throughout too & arrived in Warrington at 14.37 instead of 13.59.

It then struck me anytime the M56 goes belly up between Runcorn & the M53, traffic then migrates causing chaos to the A56 [& nearby roads] thus causes havoc with reliability to the X30, which will make things fun when the X30 interworks with the 360.

I don’t see the 360 lasting long term with the 322 & 612 about to cover the whole route.

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot

(Today 10:38)MTL0201 Wrote:  I posted this on another forum but anyway, i'm not sure about Arriva's plans for interworking the 360 with the X30 when the 360 moves to Runcorn is a good idea.

I was on the X30 yesterday [11.03 from Warrington to Chester] the M56 westbound was gridlocked with a lot of the traffic migrating to the A56 through Preston Brook as an alternative, making the A56 & surrounding roads gridlocked as well, then add in congestion on the Hoole Road, that the X30 i was on arrived at Chester 40 minutes late at 13.06 [should have arrived at 12.26]. The return from Chester [which should have departed 12.31] was about 40 late throughout too & arrived in Warrington at 14.37 instead of 13.59.

It then struck me anytime the M56 goes belly up between Runcorn & the M53, traffic then migrates causing chaos to the A56 [& nearby roads] thus causes havoc with reliability to the X30, which will make things fun when the X30 interworks with the 360.

I don’t see the 360 lasting long term with the 322 & 612 about to cover the whole route.

[MTL0201]

RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot
I'm not so certain, i think there is a need for a direct Wigan-Warrington route rather than forcing passengers to change at Newton Le willows, the 360 takes 50 minutes so it's not that long a route, so those will go end to end, & it's far cheaper than the train which is £10.30 return even though the train takes just over 10 minutes.

[Y458 KNF]

RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot

(Today 13:44)MTL0201 Wrote:  I'm not so certain, i think there is a need for a direct Wigan-Warrington route rather than forcing passengers to change at Newton Le willows, the 360 takes 50 minutes so it's not that long a route, so those will go end to end, & it's far cheaper than the train which is £10.30 return even though the train takes just over 10 minutes.

It’s more to do with Arriva if they think it’s viable rather than it being a direct route.