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RE: First Chester & Wirral - mic - 05/07/2012 15:36 (05/07/2012 14:59)P493 MBY Wrote: 34231 is listed as out of use on that update, its back in service now and has been for a week or so, saw it about 35 mins ago on South Wirral High run. yes i have all ready sent update on RE: First Chester & Wirral - P450 SWX - 05/07/2012 17:21 32457 at Rock Ferry RE: First Chester & Wirral - P528LND - 05/07/2012 17:37 (05/07/2012 12:59)MTL0201 Wrote:(05/07/2012 12:14)126th street Wrote: The TTs on First's Chester and Wirral website are there but for the QP services they show only their own journeys. How childish that they can't even extend to showing Arriva's journeys on what are quality partnership services. No mention made of inter-available ticketing either. Take into account that it's not up to them to advertise Arriva journeys, as is it not their responsibility to advertise Arriva's tickets either. I wouldn't put doubt on Arriva acting the same way with their timetables/fares either. RE: First Chester & Wirral - SNL 824 - 05/07/2012 20:31 That would be real weird for 471 and 472 wherein general each company only operates each route in one direction. RE: First Chester & Wirral - R879 HRF - 05/07/2012 21:26 Just driven past RF, Gemini with plate ending in FZE (I think) parked next to 34230 (which is now missing its grill). City sightseeing chester olympian (didnt get the plate/fleet no) parked up in the yard also missing is grill. One of the 05 plate solars is parked up with 'Heswall via Arrowe Park 472' on the hanovers. S104 CSG parked in the garage with 'Ellesmere Port via Countess Hospital X2' on the blind, and X271 USH is parked next to 104 displaying 'Quality Bus Partnership' on the blind, with the 'Q' logo ! Luke RE: First Chester & Wirral - N301 CKB - 05/07/2012 21:50 After seeing a picture seen on FB Luke, the Gemini is indeed YJ04 FZE Fleet No. 32457 RE: First Chester & Wirral - MTL0201 - 05/07/2012 22:08 (05/07/2012 17:37)P528LND Wrote:(05/07/2012 12:59)MTL0201 Wrote:(05/07/2012 12:14)126th street Wrote: The TTs on First's Chester and Wirral website are there but for the QP services they show only their own journeys. How childish that they can't even extend to showing Arriva's journeys on what are quality partnership services. No mention made of inter-available ticketing either. I've just had a look at Arriva timetables on routes they do QBP with Stagecoach, & although Arriva don't mention the interavalibility of tickets they list Stagecoach times & mention it's a joint service RE: First Chester & Wirral - 126th street - 06/07/2012 00:16 (05/07/2012 17:37)P528LND Wrote: Take into account that it's not up to them to advertise Arriva journeys, as is it not their responsibility to advertise Arriva's tickets either.Actually yes it is. It is a partnership between all parties involved, If somebody reads what First have published online they could come to the conclusion that the service frequency is erratic and that, if you look at the Heswall timetable, buses operate via different routes depending on which direction they're heading(!!) and that there is no evening service. Say if you lived in Heswall and wanted to go to Liverpool one night: you might well ride a First bus there and obviously an Arriva service back. If you just looked at First's timetable you would arrive at the conclusion that you couldn't get back so would probably abandon the bus altogether, losing them a daytime/early evening passenger in the process. The operator of individual journeys is irrelevant to both passengers and the operator themselves and hence they should publish the timetable for the QBP routes in their entirety, not just the bits that First have rather childishly and very arrogantly chosen to publicise. RE: First Chester & Wirral - Penny Return - 06/07/2012 06:02 (06/07/2012 00:16)126th street Wrote:Expect nothing else from a cowboy operation at scrapferry,all services are in the(05/07/2012 17:37)P528LND Wrote: Take into account that it's not up to them to advertise Arriva journeys, as is it not their responsibility to advertise Arriva's tickets either.Actually yes it is. It is a partnership between all parties involved, merseytravel timetable available from arriva on 401 buses yesterday and at bbs RE: First Chester & Wirral - P528LND - 06/07/2012 07:07 (06/07/2012 00:16)126th street Wrote:(05/07/2012 17:37)P528LND Wrote: Take into account that it's not up to them to advertise Arriva journeys, as is it not their responsibility to advertise Arriva's tickets either.Actually yes it is. It is a partnership between all parties involved, Who is actually in charge of the quality bus partnership? The local authority. It is their responsibility to explain how the ticketing along the routes work and what buses come when. An operator is only interested in making themselves money and themselves only full stop. Here in Manchester, there are journeys on the route 22 that are run by Stagecoach Manchester, North West and First Manchester. Neither company advertise that their weekly tickets are inter-usable on the 22 but they still are. It's up to TfGM to explain this. They also don't show each others journeys, however on TfGM's website there is a shared timetable with all relevant information of journeys on it. The quality bus partnership is simply two bus operators providing journeys along one bus route/corridor with a few mix and match tickets. At no point do First have to display information about the rival company because after-all, it's still a rival company. Personally I think this whole QBP scheme is a stupid way of living in a dream world of bus companies all working happily together. It's just not going to work under any circumstance. One thing I can never make sense of is why Chester have 3 route 1's. It makes abaolutely no sense to me, it's as though they've gone 'Oh lets make a bus route, stop there there there and there... what shall we number this, 1? Yes 1. Right, lets make another bus route, go round in a circle there, come back. Hmm, what shall we number this, 1? Yes. 1. We'll do one that goes round the other way and number that one 1A. Right, another bus route, go up there, past the Zoo, up to the city. Stop here, there, everywhere. What shall we nu... 1? Oh, are you sure? Oh well I guess that's ok... |