As far as I am aware the Manchester-York service is a fixture, not a diversion, taking advantage of the new platform at Castleford.
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There doesn't seem to be any reason for the transfer of the Huddersfield-Leeds service in the Northern track access application, and the main track access application for TPE refers to a seperate 61st amendment, which I cannot trace. My guess is that there will not be enough 185s.
(18/08/2024 15:47)mikestone Wrote: [ -> ]As far as I am aware the Manchester-York service is a fixture, not a diversion, taking advantage of the new platform at Castleford.
Makes it inconvenient from getting from South Manchester/North Cheshire to Leeds. Just one 'direct' train from Piccadilly to Leeds per hour, so up to an hour's connection time if your local service is only hourly.
It can actually be faster to do Stockport to Sheffield/Meadowhall and then pick up a Leeds train from there. Although, not a permitted route unless you use multiple tickets.
From 16 December TPE re-instated the hourly Liverpool Lime Street to Hull service using a mis of Class 185 and 802 units.
(20/12/2024 19:18)childwallblues Wrote: [ -> ]From 16 December TPE re-instated the hourly Liverpool Lime Street to Hull service using a mis of Class 185 and 802 units.
Noticed the ASDO at LEG still needs updating for 6 car 185s
Chiltern Railways have signed a lease for the mk5s. It follows them putting out an ITT for mk3 replacement and Beacon Rail putting forward the mk5s as an option.
I think we were told initially 185s being retained and used instead of the loco hauled sets was a temporary measure due to staffing issues and more crews signing 185s. Not the first time modern stock has transferred from the TPE franchise to Chiltern, and left TPE with an inferior option.
Although, a good option for Chiltern, given the almost new trains already exist and they won't need to wait for them to be built and tested.
(01/09/2025 11:33)knutstransport Wrote: [ -> ]Chiltern Railways have signed a lease for the mk5s. It follows them putting out an ITT for mk3 replacement and Beacon Rail putting forward the mk5s as an option.
I think we were told initially 185s being retained and used instead of the loco hauled sets was a temporary measure due to staffing issues and more crews signing 185s. Not the first time modern stock has transferred from the TPE franchise to Chiltern, and left TPE with an inferior option.
Although, a good option for Chiltern, given the almost new trains already exist and they won't need to wait for them to be built and tested.
They will also lease the same class 68 locos (68019-32) that TPE used, as they were specially equipped for Mk 5A stock, thereby handing back 68010-15 to DRS
I’ve noticed that most LIV-HUL services will have 5 or 6 carriages from December, where are the extra units coming from as a lot are currently just a 3 car 185?
(13/11/2025 21:30)Y458 KNF Wrote: [ -> ]I’ve noticed that most LIV-HUL services will have 5 or 6 carriages from December, where are the extra units coming from as a lot are currently just a 3 car 185?
Currently if you break it down by percetanges as a rough guide the current Liverpool-Hull's are 75% 2 x 185 or an 802 and 25% 1 x 185 so not really any increase come December going by that.
(13/11/2025 21:38)Gordon V Wrote: [ -> ]Currently if you break it down by percetanges as a rough guide the current Liverpool-Hull's are 75% 2 x 185 or an 802 and 25% 1 x 185 so not really any increase come December going by that.
Interesting though 6 car 185s do get split during the day seems to always be a 3 car 185 at peak times.
(14/11/2025 15:24)Y458 KNF Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting though 6 car 185s do get split during the day seems to always be a 3 car 185 at peak times.
Off the top of my head out of Liverpool on a weekday the what you might class as peak hour services are as follows
0654+0754 Hull 2 x 185
1554 Hull an 802
1654+1754 Hull 1 x 185