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(11/02/2020 09:12)ManchesterBusPhotography Wrote:  Sharston's BYD's will be running a driver training program from the mornings to the evenings around sharston and the Airport, familiarising drivers with the controls. These will enter service with Sharston from March 1st.

If they're not entering service until March 1st, shouldn't they be registered on '20' plates? Some haven't even arrived yet.
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(13/02/2020 16:44)ace Wrote:  If they're not entering service until March 1st, shouldn't they be registered on '20' plates? Some haven't even arrived yet.

This never really seams to matter these days, lets not forget both batches of Vantage buses arrived after registration change dates, and still carried the old previous registration plates, admittedly some of the first batch had been used for driver training but the second batch hadn't. I understand large operators do not re-register buses because of the costs involved and also like cars it is cheaper to register a batch under the old plate prior to the new plate coming in, and vehicles are pre-registered and to change them costs extra money. Most of the audience of bus passengers, I doubt understand the registration system in any-case or bother to check any registration plates, so it really doesn't matter to them.

Obviously to us registrations are important and interesting to us as enthusiasts, but to operators, not renewing them is a way of getting rid of unnecessary costs. Although it might be possible that the as yet undelivered stock, if its still at ADL gain 20 plates, but its unlikely stuff that is stored at Wigan would as they have already been registered.
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If a brand new vehicle is not taxed before 1st March then the DVLA generate a new current registeration without added cost, therefore it would void the 69 plate and issue a 20 one at no added cost.
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(13/02/2020 16:44)ace Wrote:  If they're not entering service until March 1st, shouldn't they be registered on '20' plates? Some haven't even arrived yet.



No because they are being used even if only on driver training they still need taxing.
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(16/02/2020 14:14)PSbusdriver Wrote:  No because they are being used even if only on driver training they still need taxing.

Technically not! As long as they are not used in service trade plates could be used while on training duties etc.
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(17/02/2020 05:26)Mayneway Wrote:  Technically not! As long as they are not used in service trade plates could be used while on training duties etc.

That not the case Trade plates are for

People working in the motor trade that are in temporary possession of a vehicle (or vehicles), to drive and move them without having to tax and register them first.

Driver training does not count as the drivers are not members of the motor trade
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(17/02/2020 05:26)Mayneway Wrote:  Technically not! As long as they are not used in service trade plates could be used while on training duties etc.

That is incorrect
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(15/02/2020 19:57)gilesbus1 Wrote:  This never really seams to matter these days, lets not forget both batches of Vantage buses arrived after registration change dates, and still carried the old previous registration plates, admittedly some of the first batch had been used for driver training but the second batch hadn't. I understand large operators do not re-register buses because of the costs involved and also like cars it is cheaper to register a batch under the old plate prior to the new plate coming in, and vehicles are pre-registered and to change them costs extra money. Most of the audience of bus passengers, I doubt understand the registration system in any-case or bother to check any registration plates, so it really doesn't matter to them.

Obviously to us registrations are important and interesting to us as enthusiasts, but to operators, not renewing them is a way of getting rid of unnecessary costs. Although it might be possible that the as yet undelivered stock, if its still at ADL gain 20 plates, but its unlikely stuff that is stored at Wigan would as they have already been registered.

The second batch of vantages entered service in January 2017, meaning that is when 66 plates were still registered and a while before 17 was even released! I went on one of them on their first day out which was definitely in January!
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