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General Election 8th June 2017
RE: General Election 8th June 2017
(22/04/2017 18:43)wirralbus Wrote:  How many of these close seats from last time round like Wirral West will actually stay with the Labour Party.

This election will be as much a test for the Conservatives to increase there majority as the Labour Party to keep seats because of the inferred lurch to the left.

Labour's inferred lurch to the left, or Western Society's lurch to the Right?

Elections are very much a Spectator sport here in Denton; Since the Labour Party first stood in 1906, the town's Consituency (Gorton until 1983; Denton & Reddish since) has only had one non-Labour MP an that was for just 4 years (1931-5). Can't really see it changing as we have relatively few "non-British" electors and Electioneering is so bad, we only find out anyone other than Labour and Tory's have stood when the votes are counted!
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One interesting thing is the Railforum UK are having a poll like this, 161 people have currently voted and so far the Lib Dems are winning on it mostly due to a number of members living down South and are going to vote tactically to get the Torys out as they are in seats that the Lib Dems are just about in 2nd on, What do people think about voting in this mannor?

link to poll: http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=145549

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Problem is can anyone trust the Lib Dems after 2010? People may vote Lib Dem to keep the Tories out but then if there's no overall majority, there's nothing to stop them forming another coalition with the Tories. I note Tim Farron this morning ruling out any deal but they tend to flip flop so much, I doubt they can be trusted.
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If the Lib Dems did rule out working with the tories and stuck to it i think we would see the Lib Dems grow in seat numbers, maybe even double the number of seats to what they have now

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The liberal Democrats traditionally always had policy that was to the left of the Tory and right of the Labour Party , but with Jeremy now in charge of the Labour Party this is the place i see disillusioned Labour Supporters moving to.

At what point is Jeremy Corbyn's head be on the chopping block.
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(23/04/2017 15:31)wirralbus Wrote:  The liberal Democrats traditionally always had policy that was to the left of the Tory and right of the Labour Party , but with Jeremy now in charge of the Labour Party this is the place i see disillusioned Labour Supporters moving to.

At what point is Jeremy Corbyn's head be on the chopping block.

I don't understand any of this whatsoever - the Labour Party has over 500,000 members and has actually been quite successful under Jeremy Corbyn - yet nobody's actually bothered to highlight the clear facts that Labour has won four by-elections with an increased majority and also two mayoral elections under Corbyn. Despite all of that the one by-election Labour lost was highlighted instead of focusing on the successes the party has achieved. The amount of slating of Jeremy Corbyn before he's even had the chance to lead the party into a general election is absolutely out of order

What's more annoying is Mrs May is still refusing to appear on TV debates. That's like someone applying for a job but not even turning of for an interview

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(23/04/2017 15:52)Y474 KNF Wrote:  I don't understand any of this whatsoever - the Labour Party has over 500,000 members and has actually been quite successful under Jeremy Corbyn - yet nobody's actually bothered to highlight the clear facts that Labour has won four by-elections with an increased majority and also two mayoral elections under Corbyn. Despite all of that the one by-election Labour lost was highlighted instead of focusing on the successes the party has achieved. The amount of slating of Jeremy Corbyn before he's even had the chance to lead the party into a general election is absolutely out of order

What's more annoying is Mrs May is still refusing to appear on TV debates. That's like someone applying for a job but not even turning of for an interview

Its partly a question of where those by-elections and Mayoral Elections were, but taking your point at face value; This country is not run by Politicians, it is run by the Media. With the possible exception of The Guardian - who should stop messing around and return to their Mancunian roots - they are all right-wing liars and parasites who would always promote the Tories to keep their taxes down and investment in their Canary Wharf locale in the hundreds of billions.
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(23/04/2017 15:52)Y474 KNF Wrote:  I don't understand any of this whatsoever - the Labour Party has over 500,000 members and has actually been quite successful under Jeremy Corbyn - yet nobody's actually bothered to highlight the clear facts that Labour has won four by-elections with an increased majority and also two mayoral elections under Corbyn. Despite all of that the one by-election Labour lost was highlighted instead of focusing on the successes the party has achieved. The amount of slating of Jeremy Corbyn before he's even had the chance to lead the party into a general election is absolutely out of order

What's more annoying is Mrs May is still refusing to appear on TV debates. That's like someone applying for a job but not even turning of for an interview

I think the media are over-promoting polls and playing down inconvenient election results. Labour have had the successes you outline. Even last year when they won the Bristol Mayor election the media only highlighted the London gain. Even here they made out that a Labour win was a foregone conclusion as Boris was standing down. Labour lost considerably fewer Councillors than predicted. Even so, losing these Council seats and a few more in subsequent Council by-elections, and the Copeland Parliamentary by-election, do not exactly show Labour cruising to victory at the General Election.
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Just hoping someone chases May round in a Chicken outfit as per what happened to David Cameron a few years ago when he was ruling out a TV debate although it does appear as though all her campaign rallies are stage managed, so very little chance of anyone getting away with that.

With just under a week of campaigning now gone, May is actually looking quite weak (stage managed campaign rallies/2 of her PR team resigning) whereas Corbyn is looking quite strong on the campaign front which to be fair is his strong point.
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Well with politics , you could have 100 pages on here and youll never get people to agree .

Politics is a very emotive subject in this time of austerity.

Dont forget the 1983 General Election and Michael Foot being walked all over by Margaret Thatcher that started the slow recovery of Labour with the party eventually winning the GE of 1997 under one Tony Blair.
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