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RE: Oakwood Travel (Classic Bus North West) - knutstransport - 29/01/2017 10:56
(28/01/2017 18:46)WhiteVanMan Wrote: So how is he still getting away with it ?
Who has the authority to stop him? Can the Police seize his vehicles if they are being used on a public bus service when he doesn't have a licence to operate one?
RE: Oakwood Travel (Classic Bus North West) - St Helens Rider - 29/01/2017 11:35
(29/01/2017 10:56)knutstransport Wrote: Who has the authority to stop him? Can the Police seize his vehicles if they are being used on a public bus service when he doesn't have a licence to operate one?
It's possible as that is how Darwen Coach Services finished although this was more of an insurance issue.
RE: Oakwood Travel (Classic Bus North West) - motormayhem1 - 29/01/2017 11:37
Surely they are now operating service veichles without insurance if there ops licence as been revoked as that should make there insurance nil void so in turn the police should beable to seize veichles on that grounds if thats correct?
RE: Oakwood Travel (Classic Bus North West) - Mayneway - 29/01/2017 13:20
(29/01/2017 11:35)St Helens Rider Wrote: It's possible as that is how Darwen Coach Services finished although this was more of an insurance issue.
I believe the issue with Darwen coach company was more to do with drivers not holding the correct entitlements on thier licences which made the insurance on the vehicle they were driving invalid.
Has an operator ever continued to run after thier ops licence has been revoked? Knowing the owner though he could be the first.
RE: Oakwood Travel (Classic Bus North West) - pete tierney - 29/01/2017 14:45
(28/01/2017 18:46)WhiteVanMan Wrote: So how is he still getting away with it ?
Just a thought, I'm probably miles out with this, but is it possible there may be another licence being used?
RE: Oakwood Travel (Classic Bus North West) - enrag2000 - 29/01/2017 15:09
(28/01/2017 18:46)WhiteVanMan Wrote: So how is he still getting away with it ?It is quite straightforward. He has appealed against the decision of the last Hearing and that decision is in abeyance pending the hearing of the appeal.
It is unfortunate that there never seems any urgency in setting a date for an appeal hearing so these matters can go on and on.
RE: Oakwood Travel (Classic Bus North West) - wirralbus - 29/01/2017 16:32
(29/01/2017 15:09)enrag2000 Wrote: It is quite straightforward. He has appealed against the decision of the last Hearing and that decision is in abeyance pending the hearing of the appeal.
It is unfortunate that there never seems any urgency in setting a date for an appeal hearing so these matters can go on and on.
And you can guess if the decision doesnt go his way he will try to appeal that decision as well.
Never ending circle of events.
Its not doing the reputation of the Traffic Commissioner's any good is it .
RE: Oakwood Travel (Classic Bus North West) - robertclark125 - 29/01/2017 18:22
Well, how many more levels can he go through? At some point he'll exhaust the appeals. But, when?
RE: Oakwood Travel (Classic Bus North West) - knutstransport - 29/01/2017 18:45
Didn't the West Midlands TC ban the reincarnated GHA Coaches from a date in a few weeks after the hearing (to allow the local council to re-award contracts) and state the decision couldn't be appealed? He seems the one TC who is able to make firm decisions that don't create a whole load of repercussions.
RE: Oakwood Travel (Classic Bus North West) - WhiteVanMan - 30/01/2017 18:24
(29/01/2017 14:45)pete tierney Wrote: Just a thought, I'm probably miles out with this, but is it possible there may be another licence being used?
That is a possibility, but wouldn't the services would have to be registered on that licence ?