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RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - T42 PVM - 10/01/2020 21:17
(10/01/2020 20:25)PAUL2511 Wrote: According to bus tracking it's been out this morning so I'm hoping its right
Dont take the Bus Times Website as the Bible, Could have been a Ticket Machine Swap so always worth waiting until its seen in the flesh
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - PAUL2511 - 10/01/2020 23:06
(10/01/2020 21:17)T42 PVM Wrote: Dont take the Bus Times Website as the Bible, Could have been a Ticket Machine Swap so always worth waiting until its seen in the flesh
d yes I know that
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - trixmax2000 - 11/01/2020 16:48
(10/01/2020 23:06)PAUL2511 Wrote: d yes I know that
2498 is now sorn (not taxed)
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - PAUL2511 - 11/01/2020 19:51
(11/01/2020 16:48)trixmax2000 Wrote: 2498 is now sorn (not taxed)
sh*t only need pictures of 2497/98
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - LT10 - 17/01/2020 21:22
T42 is correct, machines can be programmed to any vehicle, but sometimes are just swapped over quickly if a bus is needed, and will either run with the wrong fleet number or no fleet number at all on the machine.
Update here. 2500 has gone to Southport for MOT, not yet known if it is returning. 2491 has also gone to St Helens for MOT. This leaves 2489/90/92/2501 as the only 54 plate Cadets left here. As we speak, 2490 is at Runcorn, the other 3 at Winsford.
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - PAUL2511 - 18/01/2020 16:52
(17/01/2020 21:22)LT10 Wrote: T42 is correct, machines can be programmed to any vehicle, but sometimes are just swapped over quickly if a bus is needed, and will either run with the wrong fleet number or no fleet number at all on the machine.
Update here. 2500 has gone to Southport for MOT, not yet known if it is returning. 2491 has also gone to St Helens for MOT. This leaves 2489/90/92/2501 as the only 54 plate Cadets left here. As we speak, 2490 is at Runcorn, the other 3 at Winsford.
Shame 2498 not going to make it back on the road again
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - cfm146g - 19/01/2020 18:14
(17/01/2020 21:22)LT10 Wrote: T42 is correct, machines can be programmed to any vehicle, but sometimes are just swapped over quickly if a bus is needed, and will either run with the wrong fleet number or no fleet number at all on the machine.
On the Wayfarer system machines are mounted on a base plate which contains a circuit board powered by the bus. Attached to the board is a Real Time Chip also known as a Dallas chip which is encoded with the fleet number. The ticket machine is then plugged onto the plate and learns which bus it is on from the Dallas chip. So machines can be swapped around without concerns regarding bus numbers.
On Ticketer machines the base plate has no circuit board and the machine needs to be told what bus it is on before being sent out. Obviously thiere is scope for this step to be forgotten so that buses may report the fleet number of the previous bus on which the machine was mounted. The correct procedure when removing a machine is to remove the bus number from the memory. If this was carried out then the machine will report no number if put on another bus without being reprogrammed.
It is possible for a bus to report the wrong number on the Wayfarer system however. In the event of Dallas chip failure or the chip becoming dislodged from its mount the bus will report the default number 9999. If the base plate is taken off the bus and mounted on another it will carry the fleet number with it unless the Dallas chip is replaced or reprogrammed.
Hope this helps to explain unexpected reports of bus locations.
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - trixmax2000 - 20/01/2020 21:27
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RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - gilesbus1 - 20/01/2020 21:38
Is this a sign Halton is likely to collapse at the end of the week and that Arriva is holding this in order to take on drivers who are threatened with redundancy. Presumably the knowledge has been gained from internal leaks at Halton Council?
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - johnluke - 20/01/2020 21:51
To me it looks like they are trying to get first bite of the cherry it will all come out after the meeting