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RE: First Manchester - Mrboo - 07/02/2019 09:35

(07/02/2019 09:14)M60lad Wrote:  Dont forget that if this story is actually true and Oldham Depot is sold then whoever gets it can't do much with it due to the fact the building itself is a listed building, the same I think with Queens Road.

They will pull down the depot but keep the office`s like white city retail park keep some walls and East Didsbury with the clock tower

They was planning few year ago to sell and move to the British gas depot and the land being part of https://www.oldham.gov.uk/info/200891/investment_schemes/1409/prince_s_gate_at_oldham_mump

There new plans for Prince`s gate coming soon.

https://www.oldham.gov.uk/info/200891/investment_schemes/1409/prince_s_gate_at_oldham_mumps/2


RE: First Manchester - NorthernCounties - 07/02/2019 09:52

12 new electric buses coming to first


RE: First Manchester - gilesbus1 - 07/02/2019 15:57

(07/02/2019 09:14)M60lad Wrote:  Dont forget that if this story is actually true and Oldham Depot is sold then whoever gets it can't do much with it due to the fact the building itself is a listed building, the same I think with Queens Road.

Not so, they are grade 2 listed and not grade 1, lets not forget part of Atherton was grade 2 listed and that was demolished - all it means is that a penalty has to be paid for demolish-ion, and based on the rate of property values that can be gained back. Also its probable only parts are listed and that they could be incorporated into any new developments.


RE: First Manchester - 33109 - 07/02/2019 16:08

If queens road is sold off either by first or a new owner (if they flog the entire manchester outfit) then they'll have to negotiate a deal with the transport museum as don't forget they occupy the back half of the depot.

Not sure what the current arrangement is, best guess is that they rent it from first. If it were sold they'd probably start a fundraising drive to buy their section of the depot, can't really foresee them moving their entire collection.


RE: First Manchester - Mrboo - 07/02/2019 17:21

(07/02/2019 16:08)33109 Wrote:  If queens road is sold off either by first or a new owner (if they flog the entire manchester outfit) then they'll have to negotiate a deal with the transport museum as don't forget they occupy the back half of the depot.

Not sure what the current arrangement is, best guess is that they rent it from first. If it were sold they'd probably start a fundraising drive to buy their section of the depot, can't really foresee them moving their entire collection.
Are you sure they rent it or did GMPTE give it to them when they had GMBuses?


RE: First Manchester - 33109 - 07/02/2019 19:44

Pass on that, just a guess.


RE: First Manchester - gilesbus1 - 07/02/2019 19:54

I think the Museum isn't effected as that building is separated by a wall and owned by TfGM.


RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 07/02/2019 22:35

(07/02/2019 19:54)gilesbus1 Wrote:  I think the Museum isn't effected as that building is separated by a wall and owned by TfGM.

I got told the Museum was seprtate and they paid a 'peppercorn' rent. Not sure if it's to tfgm but I don't think it's got anything to do with First.


RE: First Manchester - gilesbus1 - 07/02/2019 22:45

(07/02/2019 22:35)Mayneway Wrote:  I got told the Museum was seprtate and they paid a 'peppercorn' rent. Not sure if it's to tfgm but I don't think it's got anything to do with First.

Yep, id agree with that, its not connected with First, there was a period though in the past when the museum was thinking of moving to Heywood on a building close to the East Lancs Railway and the plan was to put in the Boyle Street building the Minibus Fleet of Manchester Community Minibuses (not MCT) but the other outfit, of course that all come to nothing.

If Queens Road was closed and demolished the only effect it might have on the museum is related to event days when vehicles from the collection are parked in Queens Road out of the way to allow exhibits/stalls to be in Boyle Street, in that event other arrangements may need to be made somewhere else. Unless of course some fund raising took place and exhibits moved into Queens Road itself as an additional museum building - that would be a dream.


RE: First Manchester - johnluke - 09/02/2019 10:13

The museum is owned by tfgm I'm assuming first will have some kind of lease or rent on the building where they occupy