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RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 27/06/2016 19:26

(27/06/2016 18:38)SF07 Wrote:  33669 operating this morning with a broken display on the X84. No paper in window either, so the driver was announcing the service number to anyone waiting when arriving at bus stops.

First are starting to slip again regarding displays. There's been a branded Enviro400 on the 409 with no working displays and only a bit of paper stuck low down on the windscreen saying '409' but I've noticed it a few times so clearly their in no rush to fix it, and one of Dukinfields ALX deckers also has a failed front dot matrix display so again a bit of paper stuck on windscreen which is hardly readable.


RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 27/06/2016 21:36

(27/06/2016 20:26)Dentonian Wrote:  Not that they Labour party did any better. They had 13 years to Re-regulate and didn't. And certainly in this region, there are many Labour MPs and Councillors who hate buses including at least one of the latter who permanently parked 2 of the 5 (yes, five) family cars on a bus stop for a decade or more, before getting GMPTE (as it was then) to move the stop to a dangerous location about three doors away.

Sounds about right.
They all p*** in the same pot.
The point I was making is that everyone goes on about the 350 million we're going to be saving a week by not being part of the EU but it's simply nieve to think the Tories are going to 'splash the cash'!


RE: First Manchester - motormayhem1 - 28/06/2016 06:51

(27/06/2016 20:26)Dentonian Wrote:  Not that they Labour party did any better. They had 13 years to Re-regulate and didn't. And certainly in this region, there are many Labour MPs and Councillors who hate buses including at least one of the latter who permanently parked 2 of the 5 (yes, five) family cars on a bus stop for a decade or more, before getting GMPTE (as it was then) to move the stop to a dangerous location about three doors away.

Exactly the same case in Liverpool with joe anderson who as a serious hate of buses and will do anything to desecrate them but will bend over backwards for taxis just because they get yearly incomes off the plates.
If it weren't for buses bringing in the people then liverpool would be virtually empty and the city just clogged up with cars.
While other city's have well served bus lanes liverpool only have 3 part time bus lanes


RE: First Manchester - acocker96 - 28/06/2016 13:27

Does anyone know why the 81, 407, 343 and 425's keep coming up the bypass and up king street?


RE: First Manchester - Raawwwrrr! - 28/06/2016 19:39

BD11CFE is currently at Manchester Depot and was on the 18 MRI - Langley today


RE: First Manchester - SF07 - 28/06/2016 21:08

(28/06/2016 13:27)acocker96 Wrote:  Does anyone know why the 81, 407, 343 and 425's keep coming up the bypass and up king street?

I think the 81 and 425 go that way because they go into the West Street bus station. The 343 and 407 is probably because they would have to enter the Cheapside bus station via West Street. In both cases, it probably makes it easier to go in that way rather than via Shaw Road, Egerton Street and St Mary's Way.


RE: First Manchester - SF07 - 29/06/2016 19:34

184 journeys to/from Diggle via Dobcross will be curtailed to run between Grotton and Manchester only from the end of July. The news has angered some residents in Dobcross, who loses a main route to/from Oldham (350 stops nearby on Dobcross New Road, 353/354 still serves the village).

http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/98723/bus-cuts-spark-isolation-fear?platform=hootsuite


RE: First Manchester - SF07 - 01/07/2016 18:17

First Manchester have posted their service changes for 24 July. Main theme is reducing frequencies and curtailing routes, particularly in Oldham.
  • 6: Times changed with Mon-Sat daytime service reduced to every 15 mins at all times.
  • 18: Minor timetable changes with some journeys terminating at different points of route.
  • 22: Minor timetable changes
  • 24: Service to run at peak-times only, running to Manchester in mornings and to Rochdale in afternoons. Service to start from stand F (Lever Street) in Piccadilly Gardens.
  • 35: Times changed with Sunday service re-timed to run 8 mins earlier
  • 36: Minor timetable changes including extra early morning journeys.
  • 37: Minor timetable changes including extra early morning journeys.
  • 42: Times changed with cross-city journeys reduced to every 20 mins (NMGH-Middleton section increased to every 20 mins). Service re-routed via Bowker Vale and Riverdale Road, replacing service 88. Evening and Sunday journeys will run between East Didsbury and Manchester only. Night bus journeys withdrawn.
  • 59: Service to run every 15 mins between Oldham and Manchester but reduced to half-hourly between Rushcroft and Oldham, forming a 15 minute frequency between Shaw and Oldham with service 58.
  • 68: Minor timetable changes.
  • 83: Times changed with daytime journeys from Manchester departing one minute earlier. Evening short journeys between Oldham and Manchester are withdrawn with the Sholver-Manchester journeys re-timed to run 5 minutes later. This will form a 15 minute evening frequency with services 180 and 184.
  • 88: Service curtailed to run between White Moss and Manchester Piccadilly only on Monday-Saturday daytimes (unclear on evening and Sundays)
  • 95: Minor timetable changes. Additional early weekday morning journeys introduced, while the last Mon-Sat journey in each direction withdrawn.
  • 97: Minor timetable changes on Saturday with some early morning journeys withdrawn.
  • 98: The 0807 weekday journey is re-timed to run at 0810, while additional weekday journey introduced at 1806 from Bury to Radcliffe
  • 100: Minor timetable changes with Sunday evening journeys running between intu Trafford Centre and Manchester only.
  • 149: Service curtailed to run between Oldham and Cheetham Hill only. No changes (yet) to Stagecoach's evening and Sunday service.
  • 163: Times changed with more Mon-Sat evening journeys continuing to Bury, while Sunday evening journeys reduced to hourly
  • 181/182: Times changed with service 181 re-routed via St Mary's Road instead of Broadway and most journeys on service 182 curtailed to run between Shaw and Manchester. Services to start from stand F (Lever Street) in Piccadilly Gardens.
  • 184: Times changed with most journeys running two minutes later into Manchester. Journeys to/from Diggle via Dobcross are curtailed to run between Grotton and Manchester only.
  • 409: Times changed with Mon-Sat evening service reduced to half-hourly (same as Sunday evenings).
  • 415: First plan to withdraw commercial Sunday daytime service. TfGM may provide subsided service.
  • 468: Minor timetable changes
  • 471: Evening journeys slightly re-timed. Additional weekday journeys introduced at 1837 from Bury to Rochdale and 1838 from Rochdale to Bury.
  • 472/474: Route will temporarily split into two sections, due to roadworks in Ramsbottom from 23 July. In addition, evening journeys reduced to hourly each way.
  • 501: Minor timetable changes on Saturdays.
  • 519/520: Minor timetable changes with some evening journeys finishing the route earlier.
  • 524: Minor timetable changes with evening service reduced to hourly after 2100.
  • 527: Minor timetable changes.
  • 561/562: Minor timetable changes on Saturdays plus additional Sunday journey at 0825.
  • 582: Minor timetable changes including additional weekday journey at 0635 from Leigh.
  • V1/V2: Minor timetable changes including additional stopping points at Adelphi House in Salford in both directions and at New York Street towards Manchester.

https://www.firstgroup.com/greater-manchester/news-and-service-updates/planned-changes/service-changes-bury
https://www.firstgroup.com/greater-manchester/news-and-service-updates/planned-changes/service-changes-bolton-0
https://www.firstgroup.com/greater-manchester/news-and-service-updates/planned-changes/service-changes-leigh-atherton-and-0
https://www.firstgroup.com/greater-manchester/news-and-service-updates/planned-changes/service-changes-middleton-blackley-and
https://www.firstgroup.com/greater-manchester/news-and-service-updates/planned-changes/service-changes-oldham-rochdale-and-shaw
https://www.firstgroup.com/greater-manchester/news-and-service-updates/planned-changes/service-changes-salford-and-trafford
https://www.firstgroup.com/greater-manchester/news-and-service-updates/planned-changes/service-changes-south-manchester-0


RE: First Manchester - Benzo - 02/07/2016 08:47

Enviro400 33834 been on loan to Pioneer all this week, mainly on the 348/350/387/389
Thought Pioneer drivers have not had familiarisation on these types?


RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 02/07/2016 10:08

(02/07/2016 08:47)Benzo Wrote:  Enviro400 33834 been on loan to Pioneer all this week, mainly on the 348/350/387/389
Thought Pioneer drivers have not had familiarisation on these types?

Spotted this myself in Mottram yesterday lunchtime on a 387.
I'm wondering if drivers have had a 'brief' VF in the depot.