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RE: First Manchester - PO59 MXJ - 12/09/2015 00:45

The poor girl wouldn't of had much confidence to begin with as she was a fairly new driver. So imagine what she must of been feeling like after taking a roof off. All sorts must of been running through her head. Probably thinking shes going to loose her job. I know when i caught a mirror and put it through the door, that alls i wanted to do was run away and hide up a tree, and i only had a few passengers on. It wouldn't surprise me if there was people there having a go at her. Even thought its her role to make sure everyone is off and OK, realisticly, if shes been shouted at and what not, then she is going to take a step back isnt she. Support the girl, don't give her stick. Amd also, look at things from a realistic point of view.


RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 12/09/2015 09:07

(12/09/2015 00:45)PO59 MXJ Wrote:  The poor girl wouldn't of had much confidence to begin with as she was a fairly new driver. So imagine what she must of been feeling like after taking a roof off. All sorts must of been running through her head. Probably thinking shes going to loose her job. I know when i caught a mirror and put it through the door, that alls i wanted to do was run away and hide up a tree, and i only had a few passengers on. It wouldn't surprise me if there was people there having a go at her. Even thought its her role to make sure everyone is off and OK, realisticly, if shes been shouted at and what not, then she is going to take a step back isnt she. Support the girl, don't give her stick. Amd also, look at things from a realistic point of view.

I'm not giving her stick and your right shock does do funny things and no training can prepare somebody to act in a certain way during any kind of collosion, but your looking at it from a drivers point of view which is fair enough, but look at it from the passengers side, every time I and many many others board a bus we entrust our lives to the person driving the bus, with the hope that he or she will get us to our destination safely and obviously in this case it didn't happen. Yes it's an accident and they happen but it does call into question Firsts training policy. It's all very well saying give her a break but potentially lives could have been lost.


RE: First Manchester - PO59 MXJ - 12/09/2015 11:01

I fully agree with that comment. If she didnt know that route 100% then she should of said something before she went out on it. I just cant believe that shes took a wrong turning, is half a mile off route and not one passenger has said a thing. You normally get a load of abuse haha. But if something has been said to her, she should either turn around or phone her inspector. Obviously it could of been prevented.


RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 12/09/2015 11:39

(12/09/2015 11:01)PO59 MXJ Wrote:  I fully agree with that comment. If she didnt know that route 100% then she should of said something before she went out on it. I just cant believe that shes took a wrong turning, is half a mile off route and not one passenger has said a thing. You normally get a load of abuse haha. But if something has been said to her, she should either turn around or phone her inspector. Obviously it could of been prevented.

From what's been said locally, passengers very quickly made her aware that she had taken the wrong turn and she was trying to get back on route, obviously a you turn isn't really an option on a double decker bus, but as she was unfamiliar with Rochdale so wasn't aware of the low bridge.


RE: First Manchester - acocker96 - 12/09/2015 15:21

I agree it wasn't her fault, it could happen to any driver really, just look how many times a year in London at least 6 it seems. I really hope she doesn't get sacked as that would be unfair, any news on the vehicle itself? I doubt it'd be scrapped.


RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 12/09/2015 16:43

(12/09/2015 15:21)acocker96 Wrote:  I agree it wasn't her fault, it could happen to any driver really, just look how many times a year in London at least 6 it seems. I really hope she doesn't get sacked as that would be unfair, any news on the vehicle itself? I doubt it'd be scrapped.

Technically it is her fault as she was driving the vehicle. I don't know the stretch of road it happened on but apparently there were warning signs of a low bridge well In advance so why did she not stop? But it is unfair to blaime her directly as she's obviously not recieved the correct level of training.

To be honest I've heard of drivers getting sacked for a lot less than striking a bridge during their probation period but I would imagine it would depend on the outcome of the police investigation, they may decide to prosecute and of course she may decide that she never wants to drive a bus again and resign.

Let's just be thankful everyone escaped without serious injiuies.


RE: First Manchester - jimbo - 12/09/2015 19:40

That stretch of road is a bus route until the roundabout she went over before the bridge, it is well sign posted as a low bridge, i used to on a regular basis drive single deckers under it, it is about 12' the bridge, if she had of turned left at the roundabiut and followed the 471 route all would have been good, but as that isnt a queens road service she would have no clue. I drive coaches and I even on coaches i drive every week go for a bridge i check my height. I know for a facr my regular coach is 12' 1" tall but i still look before any bridge.... it is a good practice.


RE: First Manchester - SF07 - 15/09/2015 19:47

Some changes for 25 October have been posted on the First website:

*8: Additional early morning journeys introduced
*33: Additional early morning journeys introduced
*36: Additional early morning journeys introduced
*52: Some journeys extended from Salford Shopping Centre to intu Trafford Centre replacing service 110.
*39: Weekday morning journeys re-numbered X39, running limited stop along part of the route.
*93: Some Monday-Saturday journeys are extended to run to/from Prestwich, running every 30 mins
*95: Buses from Salford Shopping Centre will run through to Bury instead of terminating at Prestwich. Service will additionally call at Whitefield Interchange
*100: Additional Sunday morning journeys introduced between intu Trafford Centre and Manchester.
*110: Service curtailed to run between Salford and Manchester.

http://www.firstgroup.com/greater-manchester/news-and-service-updates/news/service-93-extension-prestwich-highlight-package


RE: First Manchester - VolvoB10M - 16/09/2015 18:41

(12/09/2015 15:21)acocker96 Wrote:  ...any news on the vehicle itself? I doubt it'd be scrapped.

It would probably depend on if the frame is bent or not. I often wonder if the damage to the vehicle would've been different if it had been Alexander or Plaxton bodied, I have always thought Wright have slightly less structural strength when it comes to collisions. For example the head on collision between Arriva 2936 and Stagecoach (Magic bus) 18288. 18288 was repaired and returned within a few months however 2936 was completely unrepairable.


RE: First Manchester - T42 PVM - 16/09/2015 19:22

Where exactly is the 110 getting cut back to? it don't really make it clear