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RE: First Manchester - mic - 02/12/2013 20:35

(02/12/2013 20:10)P528LND Wrote:  Just to sort out all confusion, Plaxton are still going, even though the name was removed for a short time.

The buses in question, if they are 56 reg, will indeed be ADL Dart SLFs. However if they'd have been built between 2001 and May 2004 they would have been Transbus Darts, as in May 2004 Transbus was sold to its management and was rebranded Alexander Dennis Ltd.

When Transbus took on the Dart in 2001, they changed the engine from the Cummins 6BT to be a Cummins ISBe 4-cylinder power pack which explains the different engine.

These will be amongst the last classic style Darts before the ADL Enviro200 went on to supercede it.

The name Plaxton was never readopted to describe the bodywork worn by the ADL Dart SLFs, and they stuck with just that, the ADL Dart SLF, as by that point, the three companies Dennis, Alexander and Plaxton were well and truly merged. To add, Transbus Coaches were sold before the Buses, subsequently being renamed Plaxton. Plaxton is now a subsidy of ADL and offers Coaches and alternate bus bodyworks to the Enviro range (whether this is true to date or not about the buses I cannot confirm.)

Smile

the one i saw 42945 was 56 reg but does not have first intiertor i will try and get a ride on it in the next few dates


RE: First Manchester - mic - 02/12/2013 20:36

anyone know any updates on these streetlites all i can find are photos taken a few months back


RE: First Manchester - mic - 02/12/2013 20:55

2nd pioneer dart from south West is 42946 from Plymouth


RE: First Manchester - 37554BY - 02/12/2013 22:55

(02/12/2013 20:36)mic Wrote:  anyone know any updates on these streetlites all i can find are photos taken a few months back

Official line is all streetlites still in Bolton Depot, the recent rumors that some had gone are totally untrue as they had been moved around the depot to allow access for the recent Eclipse 2s to be moved.

Also I believe the south west still has one or two streetlites on vf down there


RE: First Manchester - mic - 03/12/2013 10:21

a 3rd ex cornwll dart 42944 in old livery has transffrerd to pioneer i wonder if they are doing away with the B9s or moving to the ex FSY to Oldham


RE: First Manchester - YSV-205 - 03/12/2013 15:09

(09/11/2013 22:48)Metroline1511 Wrote:  I caught an 18 from Middleton to Shudehill just before midnight last night. In the opposite direction I saw a 17, an 18 and a 163 all together! Nothing like spreading them out to help passengers....

Apparently the OFT will report on the First takeover of EYMS Finglands on December 3rd http://www.oft.gov.uk/OFTwork/mergers/Mergers_Cases/

Well it's 3rd December. Does this mean a decision will be made today on the proposed take over? Or is it that they sit down & discuss it today & tell the public sometime 'soon'?


RE: First Manchester - joe_alker - 03/12/2013 16:27

(03/12/2013 10:21)mic Wrote:  a 3rd ex cornwll dart 42944 in old livery has transffrerd to pioneer i wonder if they are doing away with the B9s or moving to the ex FSY to Oldham

The B9s should stay - hopefully they will be readdressing capacity issues created when the 9.3m Marshall Darts replaced the R---SBA darts. Saw one on 333 today (56-reg Dart) and it looks uncomfortable, but better than the X and 51-reg Solos


RE: First Manchester - mic - 03/12/2013 16:31

(03/12/2013 16:27)joe_alker Wrote:  
(03/12/2013 10:21)mic Wrote:  a 3rd ex cornwll dart 42944 in old livery has transffrerd to pioneer i wonder if they are doing away with the B9s or moving to the ex FSY to Oldham

The B9s should stay - hopefully they will be readdressing capacity issues created when the 9.3m Marshall Darts replaced the R---SBA darts. Saw one on 333 today (56-reg Dart) and it looks uncomfortable, but better than the X and 51-reg Solos

they run a lot better then those X ones 49245 was the one you saw i have been on 44 i think firstbus brough them from somewhere else


RE: First Manchester - Wright Eclipse - 03/12/2013 16:42

Think the adl darts comming here is because cornwall are due more wright eclipses


RE: First Manchester - mic - 03/12/2013 16:45

(03/12/2013 16:42)Wright Eclipse Wrote:  Think the adl darts comming here is because cornwall are due more wright eclipses

do you know how many only seen 2 so far they could see of these X reg darts seen 49244/45 so far been told 46 is here as well any news welcome