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RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 15/10/2012 17:17

(15/10/2012 15:07)P528LND Wrote:  What's the point in complaining about it when a bus is a bus? I think branding should be scrapped all together personally because First simply can't make it work.

At least their bus turned up, that's all I can say on the matter.

The reason - or the main reason I mentioned it is because the last time both First and Stagecoach Manchester increased fares one of the main reasons for the increase was the rising costs of diesel and the cuts to BSOG (if I've got it right), so if the cost of fuel is such a factor, then First should be using smaller vehicles, certainly in the evening and on Sundays, some services can be adequately operated with smaller single deck vehicles.


RE: First Manchester - james - 15/10/2012 18:19

So once again another example of drivers at Dukinfield doing what ever they want - does the depot manager have no authority?

What's the point in route branding the B9s at Dukinfield if lazy drivers will use them on other services because they carnt be bothered swapping vehicles.
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the depot manager has little involvement in running after 6pm he goes to the pub (i know)
the allocator/shift controller decided it was easier because of late running and driving laws i.e 45 min break. the driver wouldnt have got to depot had break swapped over and got back in the time required because he was approx 15min late i think. this is a one off or rare occasion in this matter with dukis buses all over show at minute.


this will die down and tighten up once buses are branded. theyve already been told about this.

this is already being practiced on sundays now the b9s are here drivers now have to swap buses like they do m-sat. where before mid sept they kept the same buses from start of duty to end of duty with exc of 39/389`s


RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 15/10/2012 18:49

Classic - that will explain why nothing has ever been done about my 3 complaints to First regarding drivers forcing passengers off outside the bus station late in the evenings instead of using the Bus Station - because he's too busy in pub.

Good old First!


RE: First Manchester - james - 15/10/2012 20:04

(15/10/2012 18:49)Mayneway Wrote:  Classic - that will explain why nothing has ever been done about my 3 complaints to First regarding drivers forcing passengers off outside the bus station late in the evenings instead of using the Bus Station - because he's too busy in pub.

Good old First!

well there has been another shift rollocking about this its mainly night drivers doin this and some day drivers but i know the depot mgr has been drinking in the p.o.o last few nights and has been spot checking buses. but i noticed last 3 nights evening buses have been alighting on 219 stand then driving onto layover stands rather than alight on main road and get caught. but as usual its only a matter of time till they go back to normal. best advice is ring c.s at oldham and hound them with id numbers service and time then if this cropps up on the perf indicators he has to take action (think its every 20times for this subject in question then dm is involved then if still getting comp then area mgmt get involved and likes of me come out to do ind. surveys. but i was out 3 days last week doin time checks defects and numerous other pointers for duki depot. (if you see someone in ashton bus stn with a pad and a yellow jacket wathcing pioneer buses like a hawk thats me sometimes with my little one in his pram bored stupid)


RE: First Manchester - WWH44L - 15/10/2012 20:12

60218 is another Scania at Bolton.
There are at least 11 Darts parked up in the top car park at BN depot as well now.
33729 is another Enviro in service and was on the 562 Withins Circ!!


RE: First Manchester - Mayneway - 15/10/2012 22:56

(15/10/2012 20:04)james Wrote:  
(15/10/2012 18:49)Mayneway Wrote:  

well there has been another shift rollocking about this its mainly night drivers doin this and some day drivers but i know the depot mgr has been drinking in the p.o.o last few nights and has been spot checking buses. but i noticed last 3 nights evening buses have been alighting on 219 stand then driving onto layover stands rather than alight on main road and get caught. but as usual its only a matter of time till they go back to normal. best advice is ring c.s at oldham and hound them with id numbers service and time then if this cropps up on the perf indicators he has to take action (think its every 20times for this subject in question then dm is involved then if still getting comp then area mgmt get involved and likes of me come out to do ind. surveys. but i was out 3 days last week doin time checks defects and numerous other pointers for duki depot. (if you see someone in ashton bus stn with a pad and a yellow jacket wathcing pioneer buses like a hawk thats me sometimes with my little one in his pram bored stupid)

Think I may have spotted you last week, there was a chap ( possibly you) making notes on a clipboard next to the 348/350 stand talking to the First inspector.

I would have to agree with you though, it does see to be the same few drivers who think they can do what they like and stop where they want.

As the nights start getting darker I will once again start making a note of fleet numbers/ service numbers again and go through the perlarver of filling out the online complaints form.


RE: First Manchester - james - 16/10/2012 17:34

mayneway
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i wouldnt bother with the online one they can quiet easily "mislay emails" like that but all calls have to be logged. calls you get a guarenteed response i know theyve lost 3 emails from me that way


RE: First Manchester - SF07 - 16/10/2012 19:17

184 Huddersfield timetable is listed on the Forthcoming Timetables page on First Calderdale & Huddersfield website. Times are slightly different than listed on Traveline, with buses having waiting time at Oldham bus station and Uppermill. Buses will wait 3 mins at Uppermill and 2 mins at Oldham towards Manchester and then wait for 3 mins at Oldham and one minute at Uppermill towards Huddersfield.

Also has the 0921 arrival at Huddersfield starting from Manchester at 0713 instead of at Uppermill although it has a 11 minute wait in Uppermill.

http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/calderdale_huddersfield/journey_planning/timetables/timetable.php?day=1&source_id=3&service=184&routeid=1725511&operator=12&source=sp


RE: First Manchester - WWH44L - 17/10/2012 14:28

Some fleet news for a change:-
My list of Envrios, any updates would be most welcome. The not seen list are ones that I've actually not seen.

Oldham Bolton Not seen Plymouth
33656 33657 33714 33658
33663 33673 33716 33659
33668 33677 33718 33660
33669 33691 33725 33661
33670 33693 33726 33662
33671 33695 33727 33664
33672 33696 33728 33665
33674 33697 33734 33666
33675 33699 33735 33667
33676 33700 33736
33678 33704 33737
33679 33705 33742
33680 33707
33681 33709
33682 33710
33683 33711
33684 33712
33685 33713
33686 33715
33687 33717
33688 33719
33689 33720
33690 33721
33692 33722
33694 33724
33698 33729
33701 33730
33702 33731
33703 33733
33706 33739
33708 33740
33723 33749
33732 33753
33738
33741
33743
33744
33745
33746
33747
33748
33750
33751
33752
33754
33755


RE: First Manchester - SF07 - 17/10/2012 18:27

^^ 33725-28 all in service in Bolton, according to photos on Flickr:

33725
33726
33727
33728