(07/08/2016 12:14)Dentonian Wrote:  Depending on how often the journey fails, where this happens in GM, TFGM will demand to see the ETM readings from the Operator.

(07/08/2016 14:33)motormayhem1 Wrote:  Sorry we are all not as punctuated as you dentonian but il keep my comnents and everything else to myself in future as don't think this forum is for me anymore , when ever someone says anything your straight there to shoot them down so I'll leave it there and won't bother posting anymore and il let you give everyone else on the forum the correct information from now.

(07/08/2016 12:14)Dentonian Wrote:  Strweth! I have to say that reading this is like listening to Yaya Toure's post match interviews. That must be longest unpunctuated sentence I have ever read.

Seriously, though, how do you know the Operator is still being paid for the journeys not run? Depending on how often the journey fails, where this happens in GM, TFGM will demand to see the ETM readings from the Operator. Once proved, they will lose the subsidy for the journey failed and awarded penalty points. Once, a certain amonut of points is amassed - and they are awarded for other offences such as non compliant vehicles - they can have the Tender taken off them. I suppose this is where it gets a bit problematical, as the Operator might get their lawyers to challenge the decision, and replacement contractors will no doubt sting TFGM for their extra cost of running the journeys. Also, it is notable that the performance of one large Operator in particular has declined drastically recently, albeit mainly in terms of non-compliant vehicles.

(07/08/2016 10:46)motormayhem1 Wrote:  He just said the company stated that the window had been smashed and there wasn't going to be a replacement veichle but this isn't the first time it's happened where the last bus hasn't run as i fully understand about if its a missile being thrown etc due to being a driver myself but in the past I've heard numerous passengers complain about the last bus not operating due to breakdowns etc and thats the problem with smaller operators when somthing like that happens its harder for them to cover where as larger firms can find the cover and can afford to have a number of drivers sat around on standby incase something happens but the companies who operate tendered services and fail to operate the full timetable are still getting paid for those journeys that ain't operated which in turn is a waste of public money unless the operator themselves tell the authority's that they missed the journeys as most passengers get used to it and get fed up of complaining and nothing happens as that looks the case with the way GHA was.

(07/08/2016 19:43)Dentonian Wrote:  All I can suggest is you continue to report these incidents of early running. I know who you mean from previous conversations, and I know their management were "summoned" to a meeting at TFGM HQ some months ago. Since then, I have noticed an improvement in vehicle compliance, but concede I can't speak for punctuality on your evening service. Although I wouldn't go sofaras naming specific "preferred" Operators, maybe you should also write to one of the TFGMC members in your area, stating that you are a taxpayer and as such your views are just as important as those of the Motorists lobby in your area. If I'm right, you live in the same borough as the leading propogandist against TIF, so that might be an interesting conversation to have! You should point out that you are prepared to pay a little extra council tax, if it meant safer roads, and ultimately better freedom of movement for non motorists. I'll leave you to find any comparisons you might want to give in terms of other areas of Council spending that you disagree with - I'm sure there are many, and that's just under the broad heading of Transport.

(07/08/2016 10:46)motormayhem1 Wrote:  He just said the company stated that the window had been smashed and there wasn't going to be a replacement veichle but this isn't the first time it's happened where the last bus hasn't run as i fully understand about if its a missile being thrown etc due to being a driver myself but in the past I've heard numerous passengers complain about the last bus not operating due to breakdowns etc and thats the problem with smaller operators when somthing like that happens its harder for them to cover where as larger firms can find the cover and can afford to have a number of drivers sat around on standby incase something happens but the companies who operate tendered services and fail to operate the full timetable are still getting paid for those journeys that ain't operated which in turn is a waste of public money unless the operator themselves tell the authority's that they missed the journeys as most passengers get used to it and get fed up of complaining and nothing happens as that looks the case with the way GHA was.

(07/08/2016 20:23)Mayneway Wrote:  It's frustrating for passengers because not only are they inconvienced by the fact the bus dosen't turn up but when complaining to the local transport aurthority or council is that they send a patronising reply basically telling you they have passed your comments onto the operator concerned and that they will reply once investigated yet 9times out of 10 you never get a reply so passegers simply give up complaining as they feel that nobody is listening. Obviously when local aurthority representitives travel on the service it runs to scedule with no issues lol.

(07/08/2016 14:33)motormayhem1 Wrote:  Sorry we are all not as punctuated as you dentonian but il keep my comnents and everything else to myself in future as don't think this forum is for me anymore , when ever someone says anything your straight there to shoot them down so I'll leave it there and won't bother posting anymore and il let you give everyone else on the forum the correct information from now.