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Northern Trains Ltd - St Helens Rider - 01/03/2020 08:18

New thread created as operator of Last Resort takes over the franchise from today.


RE: Northern Trains Ltd - knutstransport - 01/03/2020 09:48

Looks like the website has remained the same with the legal information changed from Arriva Rail North to Northern Trains Ltd. Logo and Northern branding are to remain the same (obviously without the 'by Arriva' that sometimes appeared under the Northern logo.)


RE: Northern Trains Ltd - wirralbus - 02/03/2020 20:04

Is this going to be another franchise with a common user livery ?

I know Scotrail now has a common user livery , this allows the trains to all look the same and not in a hotch potch of liveries when franchises change .


RE: Northern Trains Ltd - knutstransport - 02/03/2020 20:49

(02/03/2020 20:04)wirralbus Wrote:  Is this going to be another franchise with a common user livery ?

The idea was that the new Northern branding would remain in place for the next franchise following DfT & rail North putting a clause in the franchise agreement. This was the result of the mess created when Abellio & Serco tried to sell Arriva the old Northern logo (which they had registered as a trade mark), only for Arriva to tell them to get lost as they felt the old logo and livery represented low quality, which then meant Abellio & Serco had to pay to cover up/remove all their IP from stations and trains.


RE: Northern Trains Ltd - mikestone - 03/03/2020 12:37

Pity nobody thought to stop them putting Northern by Arriva on uniforms.
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Seem to have gone skip stop mad, 12.16 Liverpool Mia non stop to Oxford Road and ridiculously announced at Warrington Central as cancelled due to defect which has now been rectified.


RE: Northern Trains Ltd - mikestone - 03/03/2020 13:29

Currently on 195118 on a Liverpool-Oxford Road - is this usual?


RE: Northern Trains Ltd - ant17612 - 03/03/2020 16:43

(03/03/2020 13:29)mikestone Wrote:  Currently on 195118 on a Liverpool-Oxford Road - is this usual?

Some are now booked 195 yes.


RE: Northern Trains Ltd - ant17612 - 05/03/2020 18:23

A bit of an update from my observations on the new fleet. Corrections appreciated but here goes;
195001-195025 delivered (001 to 019, 024 in Service)
195021 Sent Back to CAF after an incident at Edge Hill
195101-195130 delivered (All in Service)
195131-195133 due
331001-331029 delivered (001 to 028 in Service)
331030-331031 due
331101-331112 delivered (All in Service)


RE: Northern Trains Ltd - Penny Return - 05/03/2020 19:20

Have seen 195001 - 024 at Edge Hill or Lime Street,and think 195025 was at Edge Hill earlier

This week,but could nor make out number

Same applies to 331001 - 027


RE: Northern Trains Ltd - Gordon V - 06/03/2020 17:47

(05/03/2020 18:23)ant17612 Wrote:  A bit of an update from my observations on the new fleet. Corrections appreciated but here goes;
195001-195020 delivered (001 to 016 in Service)
195021-195025 due
195101-195130 delivered (101 to 128 in Service)
195131-195133 due
331001-331023 delivered (001 to 021 in Service)
331024-331031 due
331101-331112 delivered (All in Service)

331024+331026 delivered and been on test this week,not in passenger service yet