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RE: First Chester & Wirral - 126th street - 10/01/2013 15:52

I am not sure how clever an idea it is for Stagecoach to seemingly be set to replace the older Scanias at RF on 38s and 41s with Darts as these will cause capacity issues at busy times.

On the subject of what's likely to be shipped out either in the short term or over the next few months - one would imagine that the only buses Stagecoach will view as long-term members of its fleet, either at Chester/Rock Ferry or elsewhere, will be the 05-plate Scanias at RF and the various Volvos; perhaps some of the X- and Y-reg L94s also although these themselves are non-standard within Stagecoach.

The rest - manky old L113s which will soon all be over 15 years old, a handful of Darts and a number of Solos which are coming to their end of their lives - I would imagine will have departed by this time next year. It is possible, I suppose, that some of the kit will only be technically hired by Stagecoach from First and returned for use elsewhere as and when the former can obtain vehicles of their own to replace them.

One thing I am sure of is that it's a very busy few months at Chester and Rock Ferry in prospect.


RE: First Chester & Wirral - Penny Return - 10/01/2013 16:10

stagecoach route learner in the yard at Rock Ferry this afternoon and no sign of any newies
just 2days to go and no more calling it ScrapferryLaugh 2


RE: First Chester & Wirral - SNL 824 - 10/01/2013 16:45

Looks like it's going to be a really exciting weekend. I'm in India on business for the next 10 days, so I'm really looking forward to everyone's posts and photos to keep me in the loop.


RE: First Chester & Wirral - R879 HRF - 10/01/2013 17:10

theres a few PVS wreckers in RF as we speak, presumably collecting 60114,60115,60139,34230,60112, and a few others.


RE: First Chester & Wirral - gka472l - 10/01/2013 17:21

(10/01/2013 16:10)Penny Return Wrote:  stagecoach route learner in the yard at Rock Ferry this afternoon and no sign of any newies
just 2days to go and no more calling it ScrapferryLaugh 2

That will probably be 52172, I passed it in the Birkenhead Tunnel, it was heading towards Liverpool just before 3.


RE: First Chester & Wirral - SNL 824 - 10/01/2013 18:09

A thought just occurred to me - how's this for irony - by monday the 471/2 QBP may have some of the oldest (non-schools) RF vehicles allocated to it.


RE: First Chester & Wirral - Nwales Bus - 10/01/2013 20:02

The Registrations have just appeared on the vosa website

PC1033334/181 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Chester Frodsham St
Finish Point: Boughton Heath P&R
Via:
Service Number: 30
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 13-JAN-2013
Other Details: Change of operator only, no change to route or times

PC1033334/183 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Chester Frodsham St
Finish Point: Upton Park & Ride site
Via:
Service Number: 32A
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 13-JAN-2013
Other Details: Change of operator only, no change to route or times

PC1033334/184 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Chester Foregate St
Finish Point: Wrexham Rd P&R
Via:
Service Number: 33
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 13-JAN-2013
Other Details: Change of operator only, no change to route or times

PC1033334/187 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Chester Bus Exchange
Finish Point: Plas Newton
Via:
Service Number: 51
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 13-JAN-2013
Other Details: Change of operator only, no change to route or times

PC1033334/193 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Woodchurch Road
Finish Point: Liscard Village
Via:
Service Number: 227
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates Schooldays only

PC1033334/200 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Upton
Finish Point: Pensby High School
Via:
Service Number: 643
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Schooldays only

PC1033334/202 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Chester Bus Exchange
Finish Point: Saltney, Sandy lane
Via:
Service Number: X16
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 13-JAN-2013
Other Details: Change of operator only, no change to route or times

PC1033334/206 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Eastham
Finish Point: Wirral Grammar Schools
Via:
Service Number: 602
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates schooldays only

PC1033334/207 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Eastham
Finish Point: Plessington High School
Via:
Service Number: 605
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates schooldays only

PC1033334/210 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: South Wirral High School
Finish Point: Wirral Grammar Schools
Via:
Service Number: 609
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates schooldays only

PC1033334/211 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Wirral Grammar School (Girls)
Finish Point: Thingwall
Via:
Service Number: 663
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates Schooldays only

PC1033334/214 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Calday Grammar School
Finish Point: Moreton Cross
Via:
Service Number: 614
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates schooldays only

PC1033334/215 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Saughall Massie
Finish Point: Woodchurch High School
Via:
Service Number: 617
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates Schooldays only

PC1033334/216 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: New Ferry
Finish Point: South Wirral High School
Via:
Service Number: 623
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates schooldays only

PC1033334/217 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Plessington High School
Finish Point: Gerald Road
Via:
Service Number: 625
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates schooldays only

PC1033334/221 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Ladymount School
Finish Point: Telegrapgh Road
Via:
Service Number: 645
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates Schooldays only

PC1033334/223 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: St Marys College
Finish Point: Overchurch Road
Via:
Service Number: 657
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates Schooldays only

PC1033334/224 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Chester Bus Exchange
Finish Point: Ellesmere Port
Via:
Service Number: X2
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 13-JAN-2013
Other Details: Change of operator only, no change to route or times

PC1033334/225 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Chester Bus Exchange
Finish Point: Chester Railway Station
Via:
Service Number: 50
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 13-JAN-2013
Other Details: Change of operator only, no change to route or times

PC1033334/226 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Mill Park, Clifton Avenue
Finish Point: Shrewsbury Road, Sandy Way
Via:
Service Number: 706
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates schooldays only

PC1033334/227 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Kingsmead Road/Kingsmead Rd South
Finish Point: Chester Road/Boathouse Lane
Via:
Service Number: 701
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates schooldays only

PC1033334/228 - GLENVALE TRANSPORT LTD T/A GTL, GILMOSS DEPOT, EAST LANCASHIRE RD, GILLMOSS, LIVERPOOL, L11 0BB
EBSR New Registration Created
Starting Point: Kingsmead Road/Kingsmead Road South
Finish Point: Frankby Road, The Ridger
Via:
Service Number: 703
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-JAN-2013
Other Details: Operates schooldays only


Funny that I can't find a registration to service 1/2


RE: First Chester & Wirral - K101HUM - 10/01/2013 20:24

(10/01/2013 17:10)R874 ERE Wrote:  theres a few PVS wreckers in RF as we speak, presumably collecting 60114,60115,60139,34230,60112, and a few others.

Quite a lengthy day for the Barnsley gents today then, a 100 mile convoy looming and still in Merseyside at 1710.

Judging by what was in the depot today, the only scrap vehicles to remain on site are 61578 and 60114 is their usual stabling place. All P-MPU's have left, and what Scania's remain would appear to be on allocation to RF and in active use. Whether or not that is the case come Saturday evening remains to be seen, perhaps others to be driven away for storage. 60108 at least and the odd R-GSF remain on allocation.


RE: First Chester & Wirral - mbonwick - 10/01/2013 20:35

(10/01/2013 15:52)126th street Wrote:  I am not sure how clever an idea it is for Stagecoach to seemingly be set to replace the older Scanias at RF on 38s and 41s with Darts as these will cause capacity issues at busy times.

Gosh, is 2 seats that much of an issue?

Stagecoach will not be 'hiring' anything from First - the fleet they inherit is theirs.

My money is on any Scania or dart that isn't on 'new' plates being replaced sharpish after takeover, even if it is only with a B10BLE for the meantime....the Volvos are much better on fuel than Scania L113 series.


RE: First Chester & Wirral - MPTE1955 - 10/01/2013 20:40

Well what do you want, clapped out rattly scanias or vehicles in much better condition with a couple of less seats. It's true that darts aren't suitable for everything but it is best to wait and see how things pan out.