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RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - Sprinterdriver - 14/03/2017 20:08
(14/03/2017 19:46)iMarkeh Wrote: The whole strike was about us wanting to have 2 people onboard each train. 1 to do doors and tickets and the other is the driver. I don't know about everyone else but EVERY train that I got on had 3 people. Driver, person doing doors and a ticket inspector. The actually exceeded the main objective of the strike. It was very daft.
Not really, it was a variety of Managers covering the Guards position, they are not revenue trained, so they sent a Fare Collector too.
SD.
RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - knutstransport - 14/03/2017 20:37
Posted on another forum Northern plan to use the bi-mode 319s on a service between Wigan and Stalybridge via Victoria and a service between Wigan and Alderley Edge via Piccadilly.
RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - iMarkeh - 14/03/2017 22:53
(14/03/2017 20:08)Sprinterdriver Wrote: Not really, it was a variety of Managers covering the Guards position, they are not revenue trained, so they sent a Fare Collector too.
SD.
Think of it though. It was kind of silly. Especially from a passenger point of view. 1 guard or 1 manager + 1 fare collector. Surely managers should know how to take fares incase needed. That would then mean less cancellations due to 'member of staff being unavailable' the manager could do it as a one off sort of thing.
RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - childwallblues - 15/03/2017 06:57
(13/03/2017 21:19)T42 PVM Wrote: I managed a ride today with my dad, When it started to approach the station my dad said *this does not stop here does it?*Jokes aside it does look smart and it was also nice to see the managers doing something for a change
I assume that you are aware of the managers duties to be able to make such a damming statement.
RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - wirralbus - 15/03/2017 08:46
Guards Standards Managers are supposed to be able to do the guards job in an emergenccy , so they should be fully competent , its maybe route learning that they will need to be up on .
RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - T42 PVM - 15/03/2017 09:07
According to a guard the managers had to do a refreshers course
RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - Sprinterdriver - 15/03/2017 17:11
(14/03/2017 22:53)iMarkeh Wrote: Think of it though. It was kind of silly. Especially from a passenger point of view. 1 guard or 1 manager + 1 fare collector. Surely managers should know how to take fares incase needed. That would then mean less cancellations due to 'member of staff being unavailable' the manager could do it as a one off sort of thing.
The people doing the fare collecting were not qualified to work trains, simple as.
Trains Managers do work trains on "normal" days to cover for the non availability of Conductors.
SD.
RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - Sprinterdriver - 15/03/2017 17:12
(15/03/2017 08:46)wirralbus Wrote: Guards Standards Managers are supposed to be able to do the guards job in an emergenccy , so they should be fully competent , its maybe route learning that they will need to be up on .
Anyone working a train must have the required route and traction knowledge.
SD.
RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - boby32 - 16/03/2017 20:51
(09/03/2017 23:26)Sprinterdriver Wrote: 319361 was out again today, working the 1717 to Preston.
SD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQEj7GPBlfE
RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - boby32 - 17/03/2017 10:26
319362 and 319448 being repainted in white.
https://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains-2017/March-2017/i-tDk7Hf6/A
https://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains-2017/March-2017/i-nG6pjkQ/A
And also 156471 repainted.
https://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains-2017/March-2017/i-N9Drwjf/A