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RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - mikestone - 11/07/2017 08:01

I also came across a petition opposing a planned reduction to 3 tph at Levenshulme, although service level commitment says 4, so possibly having difficulty squeezing the extra Greenbank, New Mills and Macclesfield trains in.


RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - knutstransport - 11/07/2017 15:10

(11/07/2017 08:01)mikestone Wrote:  I also came across a petition opposing a planned reduction to 3 tph at Levenshulme, although service level commitment says 4, so possibly having difficulty squeezing the extra Greenbank, New Mills and Macclesfield trains in.

No mention of that in the TfGM consultation document: https://www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/2085/item_23_may_2018_rail_timetable

According to a Northern driver who's seen the full Northern consultation document in the southbound direction Crewe, Hazel Grove, Alderley Edge and Buxton services will call at both Levenshulme and Heaton Chapel, giving 4tph. Buxton trains were originally supposed to be semi-fast service to reduce journey times but it looks like Northern have compromised on that so that Levenshulme and Heaton Chapel retain 4tph.


RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - boby32 - 12/07/2017 06:32

(10/07/2017 19:10)knutstransport Wrote:  Indeed Lime St to Airport will continue to Crewe so has to be an EMU service, as a DMU would accelerate too slowly and get in the way of long distance trains.

Northern planned to run Wigan to Bolton to Alderley Edge and Wigan to Bolton to Stalybridge electric trains as DfT required franchise bidders to effectively use overheads where possible. As they didn't plan to obtain bi-modes and there was no requirement for Southport to Bolton to Piccadilly services to continue, the franchise agreement didn't include a Southport to Airport service at the first major recast.

How long would take to travel from Lime Street to Crewe via Airport?


RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - Gordon V - 12/07/2017 06:39

(12/07/2017 06:32)boby32 Wrote:  How long would take to travel from Lime Street to Crewe via Airport?

2hrs 13 mins


RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - knutstransport - 12/07/2017 08:59

(12/07/2017 06:39)Gordon V Wrote:  2hrs 13 mins

I think it would be 10 minutes faster in one direction than the other. However, to get between Lime Street and the Airport anyone with any sense would use the Northern Connect service or change at Manchester. Having two local services joined up will make it easier to make journeys such as Eccles to the Airport.


RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - Gordon V - 12/07/2017 09:01

(12/07/2017 08:59)knutstransport Wrote:  I think it would be 10 minutes faster in one direction than the other. However, to get between Lime Street and the Airport anyone with any sense would use the Northern Connect service or change at Manchester. Having two local services joined up will make it easier to make journeys such as Eccles to the Airport.

7 minutes faster Crewe to Liverpool


RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - St Helens Rider - 12/07/2017 10:22

This service certainly gives more connectivity from some of the Chat Moss stations ie Rainhill, Lea Green, St Helens Junction with the link at Crewe giving reasonable links to the South.


RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - boby32 - 12/07/2017 11:46

Article about class 195 and class 331.

http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/rolling-stock/caf-begins-production-of-new-trains-for-northern.html?channel=529


RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - knutstransport - 15/07/2017 11:52

Diabolical planning from Northern today shortening Chester services to 2 carriages when Chester Races are on. 10:17 Manchester to Chester delayed by over 20 minutes due to so many passengers trying to cram on a 2 car train. 11:17 Manchester to Chester ran non-stop from Altrincham to Chester due to being full


RE: Northern (Arriva Rail North) - wirralbus - 15/07/2017 18:19

(15/07/2017 11:52)knutstransport Wrote:  Diabolical planning from Northern today shortening Chester services to 2 carriages when Chester Races are on. 10:17 Manchester to Chester delayed by over 20 minutes due to so many passengers trying to cram on a 2 car train. 11:17 Manchester to Chester ran non-stop from Altrincham to Chester due to being full

In the case of Non stop trains is this an actual cancellation as im sure the passengers at the intermediate would call it a cancellation