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RE: Stagecoach Manchester - cumbria0902150 - 13/11/2012 16:34

(13/11/2012 16:22)Southernsofty Wrote:  Can anyone help?
I drove past a Stagecoach Enviro 400 in Guildford this morning about half a mile from the Dennis factory, (I think it had a reg starting M something and I thought I saw fleet number 10000 (which doesn't appear to exist) I was driving in the opposite direction and there were cars in front of me and the bus, so could not get a good look.
N.B Stagecoach have no routes in this part of Guildford and the local S/C company have no Enviro400s based in the area, it was almost certainly on a test drive from the factory.
Paintwork looked very good, was it a new vehicle or one down for warranty work?

Will have been Manchester's 10000 MX12 EOC, the Euro6 Enviro 400 trial vehicle, which I heard went back to ADL for some sort of work done to it. Nicholas might be able to confirm.


RE: Stagecoach Manchester - Nicholas - 13/11/2012 16:53

It is. I believe 10042 is covering it at Stockport.


RE: Stagecoach Manchester - P450 SWX - 13/11/2012 17:57

Was the first chester and wirral and blue bird lidts there


RE: Stagecoach Manchester - SF07 - 13/11/2012 20:20

Noticed today on a couple of buses a new style for the text on the destination display for the 250 to the Trafford Centre, which makes it clearer to read. Is this a test or will they start rolling it out onto other services too?


RE: Stagecoach Manchester - ace - 13/11/2012 20:40

(13/11/2012 20:20)SF07 Wrote:  Noticed today on a couple of buses a new style for the text on the destination display for the 250 to the Trafford Centre, which makes it clearer to read. Is this a test or will they start rolling it out onto other services too?

It looks like it's gradually being rolled out onto all services. All the 76's have it, even the ones that are not the new ones, as well as the new 12 Reg Euro 6 at Stockport, and I keep noticing odd buses, mainly Hyde Road based Enviro400's changing to the new text. It is a lot easier to read and hopefully it will eventually feature on all buses.


RE: Stagecoach Manchester - ace - 13/11/2012 20:50

(12/11/2012 22:08)Benzo Wrote:  
(12/11/2012 21:26)ace Wrote:  Looks like 19009 has moved to Hyde Road from Ashton. It was on the 50 tonight.

Don't see why Hyde Rd need a 06 reg Enviro400 now, probably explains why 19053 has been on Ashton routes
Plus a bonus is that I caught 17670 on the 236 this morning to Ashton, probably that could be filling in the absence of 19009

I think there's been a couple more movements now. 22132 MAN has gone to Sharston, meaning some more 84's have gone to MAN operation, and 19524 has moved from Stockport to Hyde Road. It was on the 74 tonight.


RE: Stagecoach Manchester - gilesbus1 - 15/11/2012 10:22

(13/11/2012 14:25)gka472l Wrote:  Posted by John Glover on the GM Buses yahoo group......note that no Dart's or Excels feature!

Here is the list of ex First Manchester buses into the Stagecoach Fleet Number
System

First Wigan to Stagecoach New Fleet Numbers
13801 30586 P413 MTW Dennis Arrow / Northern Counties Palatine II New to Capital
Citybus 13802 31903 P403 PLE Dennis Arrow / Northern Counties Palatine II New to
Capital Citybus 13803 31923 P423 PVW Dennis Arrow / East Lancs Pyoneer New to
Capital Citybus 13804 31926 R426 SOY Dennis Arrow / East Lancs Pyoneer New to
Capital Citybus 13805 31930 R430 ULE Dennis Arrow / East Lancs Pyoneer New to
Capital Citybus 13806 31932 R432 ULE Dennis Arrow / East Lancs Pyoneer New to
Capital Citybus 13807 31934 R434 ULE Dennis Arrow / East Lancs Pyoneer New to
Capital Citybus 13808 31938 R438 ULE Dennis Arrow / East Lancs Pyoneer New to
Capital Citybus 13809 31946 R446 ULE Dennis Arrow / East Lancs Pyoneer New to
Capital Citybus 16191 34028 P528 HMP Volvo Olympian / Northern Counties Palatine
I New to London Central 16192 34262 N412 JBV Volvo Olympian / Northern Counties
Palatine I New to East London 16193 34291 P291 KPX Volvo Olympian / Northern
Counties Palatine I New to Southampton 16194 34292 P292 KPX Volvo Olympian /
Northern Counties Palatine I New to Southampton 16195 34294 P294 KPX Volvo
Olympian / Northern Counties Palatine I New to Southampton 16196 34296 P296 KPX
Volvo Olympian / Northern Counties Palatine I New to Southampton 16950 37305
MX07 BUW Volvo B9TL / Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini
16951 37306 MX07 BVA Volvo B9TL / Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini
16952 37307 MX07 BVC Volvo B9TL / Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini X34 branded 16953
37308 MX07 BVD Volvo B9TL / Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini X34 branded 16954 37309
MX07 BVE Volvo B9TL / Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini
16955 37310 MX07 BVF Volvo B9TL / Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini
16956 37311 MX07 BVG Volvo B9TL / Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini
16957 37312 MX07 BVJ Volvo B9TL / Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini
16958 37313 MX07 BVK Volvo B9TL / Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini
16959 37314 MX07 BVL Volvo B9TL / Wrightbus Eclipse Gemini
21169 60382 R627 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21170 60383 R654 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21171 60387 R632 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21172 60388 R633 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21173 60389 R645 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21174 60390 R646 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21175 60391 R647 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21176 60392 R648 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21177 60393 R649 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21178 60394 R650 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21179 60395 R651 CVR Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21180 60396 S652 RNA Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21181 60397 S653 RNA Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21182 60398 S654 RNA Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21183 60399 S655 RNA Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21184 60400 S656 RNA Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21185 60401 S668 SVU Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21186 60402 S669 SVU Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21187 60403 S670 SVU Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21188 60404 S671 SVU Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown
21236 66877 MX05 CKK Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21237 66878 MX05 CKL Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21238 66879 MX05 CKN Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21239 66887 MX55 HHN Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21240 66888 MX55 NWF Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21241 66889 MX55 HHM Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21242 66921 MX55 FGO Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21243 66924 MX55 FGV Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21244 66925 MX55 FGZ Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21245 66926 MX55 FHA Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21246 66927 MX55 FHB Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
21247 66932 MX55 FHG Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse

HTH

Here are some omitted vehicles vehicles:- Although the Excels will not really probably be used as upto 30 replacement vehicles have been sourced from Cambus MAN ALX300, Bluebird & Fife MAN ALX300 and Western Dart MPD, Dart swb ALX200, Bluebird Dart SLF Pointer.


21248 MX 06 VOT Volvo B7RLE / Wrightbus Eclipse Urban
25315 YJ 12 MYM Optare Versa lwb Schoolbus
25316 YJ 12 MYZ Optare Versa lwb Schoolbus
25317 YJ 12 MZE Optare Versa lwb Schoolbus
25318 YJ 12 MZG Optare Versa lwb Schoolbus
25319 YJ 12 MZL Optare Versa lwb Schoolbus
29723 BU 04 CAA BMC 11OOFE Schoolbus
29724 VX 05 LWA BMC 1100FE Schoolbus
29805 FE 52 HFH Irisbus 150fe Vehixel Scholarbus
29806 FE 52 HFJ Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29807 FE 52 HFK Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29808 MH 04 HCN Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29809 MH 04 HCP Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29810 MH 04 HCU Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29811 FJ 55 XLH Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29812 FJ 55 XLK Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29813 FJ 55 XLL Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29815 NX 07 DAO Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29816 NX 07 DAU Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29817 FX 57 LKM Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29818 PN 09 BWZ Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29819 PN 09 BXA Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29821 PO 59 CLJ Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
29822 PO 59 CLN Irisbus 150FE Vehixel Scholarbus
33327 R237 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33328 R259 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33329 R262 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33330 R261 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33331 R263 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33332 R265 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33333 R266 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33334 R267 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33335 R268 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33336 R269 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33337 R271 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33338 R272 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
33339 R273 SBA Dennis Dart SLF / Plaxton Pointer 11
35026 P701 HMT Optare Excel swb
35027 P702 HMT Optare Excel swb
35028 P703 HMT Optare Excel swb
35029 P704 HMT Optare Excel swb
35030 P213 HRJ Optare Excel
35031 R214 SBA Optare Excel
35032 R215 SBA Optare Excel
35033 R216 SBA Optare Excel
35034 R217 SBA Optare Excel
35035 R218 SBA Optare Excel
35036 R219 SBA Optare Excel
35037 R220 SBA Optare Excel
35038 R221 SBA Optare Excel
35039 R223 SBA Optare Excel
35040 R882 ENF Optare Excel
35041 R 2 LCB Optare Excel
35042 R 4 LCB Optare Excel
35043 R 7 LCB Optare Excel
35044 R 9 LCB Optare Excel
35045 R 10 LCB Optare Excel

The fact that R623CVR and X699ADK haven't been numbered in this series presumably means they will either return to First Manchester or be transfered immediately to another Stagecoach subsiduary, possibly Glenvale ready for takeovers there.

Newer deckers will be presumably sourced, all those at Workington that where withdrawn except for two where too old for TfGM contract work. So presumably it awaits the availablity of 17648-17650, 17698-17699, 18281-18291, 18293 all of which will be removed from Magic's next spring/summer by ex London ALX400's that can be used on commercial work but not on TfGM tendered services.


RE: Stagecoach Manchester - P450 SWX - 15/11/2012 10:50

7 Darts are due at Middleton later credit to GM Buses Yahoo Group
not sure why is it to replace buses to get repainted?


RE: Stagecoach Manchester - M60lad - 15/11/2012 11:23

Not sure how true this is but Darts due to go on loan to Bluebird (Chadderton) are the following:

33084, 33087, 33090, 33094, 34054, 34057, 34080

Info recieved by a good reliable friend of mine


RE: Stagecoach Manchester - P450 SWX - 21/11/2012 18:41

The official Stagecoach Wigan fleetcard or fleetlist is on GM Buses yahoo group now