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RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - pete tierney - 01/05/2017 14:28
(01/05/2017 12:16)SLTRegular Wrote: STAGECOACH ORDERS 2017/18.Oh dear, two sources in the public domain with differing information. I don't know how accurate BBP are, I don't use these books personally but I have generally found the uk buses/stagecoach site to be accurate.
10866 - 10881 Enviro 400 Euro 6 Enviro 400 MMC for Cambridge.
10882 – 10888 Enviro 400 Euro 6 Enviro 400 MMC for Rock Ferry.
10889 – 18094 Enviro 400 Euro 6 Enviro 400 MMC for Wigan.
10895 Enviro 400 Euro 6 Enviro 400 MMC for Aberdeen.
10896 – 10901 Enviro 400 Euro 6 Enviro 400 MMC for Gainsborough.
10902 – 10905 Enviro 400 Euro 6 Enviro 400 MMC for Oxford.
The Rock Ferry & Oxford examples are listed as Gold specification.
10906 – 10932 Enviro 400 Euro 6 Enviro 400 MMC for Kilmarnock.
12426 – 12432 Enviro 400H Enviro 400 MMC for Leyton.
13801 – 13807 Volvo B5TL Wrightbus Gemini for Kendal.
15291 – 15294 Scania N250 UD Enviro 400 MMC for Fenstanton.
15295 – 15305 Scania N250 UD Enviro 400 MMC for Preston.
15306 – 15327 Scania N250 UD Enviro 400 MMC for Torquay.
15328 – 15339 Scania N250 UD Enviro 400 MMC for Eastbourne.
15340 – 15349 Scania N250 UD Enviro 400 MMC for Swindon.
21311 – 21312 Volvo B8RLE Wrightbus Eclipse for Cambridge.
26141 – 26145 Enviro 200 Enviro 200 MMC for Stockport.
26146 – 26165 Enviro 200 Enviro 200 MMC for Portsmouth.
26166 – 26171 Enviro 200 Enviro 200 MMC for Dunfermline.
26172 – 26177 Enviro 200 Enviro 200 MMC for Scunthorpe.
26178 – 26205 Enviro 200 Enviro 200 MMC for Nuneaton.
All listed as 11.8m examples.
37451 – 37474 Enviro 200 Enviro 200 MMC for Porth.
37475 – 37480 Enviro 200 Enviro 200 MMC for Barnsley.
37481 – 37490 Enviro 200 Enviro 200 MMC for Lincoln.
All listed as 10.8m examples.
39101 – 39118 Wrightbus Streetlite DF Wrightbus for Yorkshire.
54285 – 54293 Volvo B11R 15m Plaxton Elite I for Rugby.
54356 – 54363 Volvo B11R 15m Plaxton Elite for Glenrothes.
54401 – 54403 Volvo B11R 15m Caetano Levante for Yorkshire.
54821 – 54824 Volvo B11R 11m Plaxton Elite for Inverness.
54825 – 54834 Volvo B11R 11m Plaxton Elite for Macduff.
Source:- British Bus Publishing 2017 Stagecoach Bus Handbook.
Or is this a bad source?
I suppose it will be a case of wait & see, unless somebody with "inside" information can confirm one or the other.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - busesdotorg1920x - 01/05/2017 16:06
Hopefully the Golds for Oxford will stop standard MMCs wandering out onto the S5/X30/31, seems to be these routes suffering from problems with gold buses the most!
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - SK15 GZG - 01/05/2017 19:13
Just a repost of the known order breakdown so far with a couple of updates:
Alexander Dennis Enviro400 (integral) double deckers (122):
10811-10843 - Merseyside & South Lancs (Gillmoss) - routes 20/21
10844-10865 - Manchester & Wigan (Middleton) - various routes
10866-10881 - East (Cambridge) - route TBC
10882-10888 - Merseyside & South Lancs (Rock Ferry) - routes 471/472 (Gold?)
10889-10895 - South (Winchester) - route TBC
10896-10901 - East (Gainsborough) - route TBC
10902-10905 - Oxfordshire (Oxford) - route TBC (Gold)
10906-10927 - West Scotland (Kilmarnock) - route TBC
10928-10932 - TBC
Alexander Dennis Enviro400 (Scania) double deckers (59):
15291-15294 - East (Fenstanton) - route TBC
15295-15305 - Merseyside & South Lancs (Preston) - route TBC
15306-15327 - South West (Torquay) - route 12
15328-15339 - South East (Eastbourne) - route TBC
15340-15349 - West (Swindon) - route TBC
Wright Gemini 3 open toppers (7):
13801-13807 - Cumbria & North Lancs (Kendal) - route 599
Alexander Dennis Enviro200 midibuses (40):
37451-37474 - South Wales (Porth) - route TBC
37475-37480 - Yorkshire (Barnsley) - route TBC
37481-37490 - East Midlands (Lincoln) - route TBC
Alexander Dennis Enviro200 single deckers (62):
26141-26145 - Manchester & Wigan (Stockport) - route TBC
26146-26165 - South (Portsmouth) - route TBC
26166-26171 - East Scotland (Dunfermline) - route TBC
26172-26177 - South (Guildford) - route TBC
26178-26202 - Midlands (Nuneaton) - route TBC
Wright Eclipse 3 single deckers (2):
21311-21312 - East (Fenstanton) - Cambridge Guided Busway
Wright StreetLite single deckers (18):
2xxxx-2xxxx - Yorkshire (Ecclesfield) - route TBC
Caetano Levante coaches (3):
54401-54403 - Yorkshire (Chesterfield)
Plaxton Elite-i coaches (9):
53401-53409 - East Scotland (Dunfermline)
Plaxton Elite 4x2 coaches (14):
54821-54825 - Highlands (Inverness)
54826-54834 - East (Bedford)
Plaxton Elite 6x2 coaches:
5xxxx-5xxxx - TBC
Any updates will be much appreciated
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - volvodart - 01/05/2017 22:59
The above appears to be the old list pre the 2017 Stagecoach Bus Handbook updated listing.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - mbonwick - 02/05/2017 13:09
The BBP Handbook is not the most accurate of the lists out there.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - pete tierney - 02/05/2017 14:21
(02/05/2017 13:09)mbonwick Wrote: The BBP Handbook is not the most accurate of the lists out there.
Thanks for this M.B., I know in the past you seem to know more than others what is happening at Stagecoach.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - pete tierney - 02/05/2017 14:25
(01/05/2017 16:29)Dentonian Wrote: Can't comment specifically for new orders - although I seem to recall from another list 10888-94 are for *Winchester* not Wigan - but uk-buses seems to suffer from the usual "affliction" of assuming FleetCards are both gospel and past tense. There are a lot of Stagecoach Manchester Tridents, MANs and B7RLEs that have been completely removed from the list, even though there has been no confirmation they have actually been withdrawn, never mind sold. Also, most Enviro400s expected to move from MN to WN (one or two via HE) have yet to make the move
When I referred to the UK buses/stagecoach list being more accurate I was really referring to when new orders get added to it, (I know I didn't say that), I do realise that at times things get deleted too early, or vehicle movements get missed. I think this stems from the fact that anyone can join to keep the lists up to date but some have a different interpretation of what withdrawn means. I'm sure most contributors update with the best of intentions, myself included.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - SK15 GZG - 02/05/2017 19:55
(01/05/2017 22:59)volvodart Wrote: The above appears to be the old list pre the 2017 Stagecoach Bus Handbook updated listing.
The BBP list lists the StreetLites as the 10.8 metre variant. The ones on order are the 11.5 metre "Max" variant
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - pete tierney - 03/05/2017 10:49
More confusion, 26172-26177 are shown as for Guildford or Scunthorpe depending which listings you look at.
Any idea's anyone?
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - mbonwick - 03/05/2017 10:58
Would tend towards Scunthorpe for those. Guildford were expecting 10.8m examples to replace darts on P&R which would be 37xxx