+- Forum | Merseyside Dennis Dart Website (http://dartslf.com/forum)
+-- Forum: Buses (/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: Local Bus Scene: North West and Wales (/forumdisplay.php?fid=2)
+--- Thread: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot (/showthread.php?tid=384)
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - Liamkennedy2231 - 17/12/2020 00:49
(16/12/2020 22:06)NathanR Wrote: 2494 was on the 18 today and was tracking from the same area, maybe it's a glitch?
It's like with Southport's ticket machine, in which it will be on the 47 next Monday, but it stands stationary in Crosby.
OT, sorry, but I did see last night that there was a stationary ‘vehicle’ in Formby numbered 44, and when I checked what vehicle it’s meant to be tracking as it showed as SP SO - the Southport spare machine. Later on though it disappeared and an E20D was making its way up to Southport on the 44.
Ive seen plenty of Runcorn buses here there and everywhere though, I think it’s a general glitch with Bus Times. I’ve seen an 82A with the ‘Last Tracked’ time way into the minus.
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - Liamkennedy2231 - 17/12/2020 20:11
Would I be correct in assuming it’s the operator who runs the service that feeds Google Maps’ data?
The journey planner seems to think the Warrington journeys on the 62 are operated by Arriva and not WOB, and that they also cross Silver Jubilee.
Could just be a mistake, or maybe it could indicate former or future plans when the bridge reopens.
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - cfm146g - 18/12/2020 12:39
(17/12/2020 20:11)Liamkennedy2231 Wrote: Would I be correct in assuming it’s the operator who runs the service that feeds Google Maps’ data?
The journey planner seems to think the Warrington journeys on the 62 are operated by Arriva and not WOB, and that they also cross Silver Jubilee.
Could just be a mistake, or maybe it could indicate former or future plans when the bridge reopens.
I think that the raw GPS and time data comes from ETM data which is usually hosted by the ETM supplier, in the case of Arriva, Ticketer. If the operator of a service is being wrongly reported I expect that to be the bustimes own database. Wrong bus numbers are almost always the fault of whoever last mounted the ETM on the bus [engineering or supervisory staff in general] who have to reassign the fleet number before it goes in service. ETMs usually get their system time from t'internet. Sometimes the 4G signal gets lost [isolated areas or sim card issues] and the ETM can lose the plot.
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - iMarkeh - 18/12/2020 15:25
(17/12/2020 20:11)Liamkennedy2231 Wrote: Would I be correct in assuming it’s the operator who runs the service that feeds Google Maps’ data?
The journey planner seems to think the Warrington journeys on the 62 are operated by Arriva and not WOB, and that they also cross Silver Jubilee.
Could just be a mistake, or maybe it could indicate former or future plans when the bridge reopens.
Google Maps is fed currently by the Traveline database I believe. I'm sure they haven't jumped on open data yet.
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - Liamkennedy2231 - 18/12/2020 21:48
Thank you both cfm146g and iMarkeh. It would make sense if Traveline supplies the data, as I’ve noticed a lot of inconsistencies with them. Proves the lack of communication without OBD in place!
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - 507022 - 23/12/2020 15:57
Long time absentee 5004 has been on the 61 this week
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - trixmax2000 - 23/12/2020 17:37
(23/12/2020 15:57)507022 Wrote: Long time absentee 5004 has been on the 61 this week
It as been back on the road now for several months
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - mr t - 24/12/2020 10:09
Arrriva have cancelled the X1 from January on VOSA so it appears MP Travel will continue for a long time yet
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - trixmax2000 - 24/12/2020 17:23
(24/12/2020 10:09)mr t Wrote: Arrriva have cancelled the X1 from January on VOSA so it appears MP Travel will continue for a long time yet
Why do you think that????
Now MP Travel are operating it on behalf of Arriva so Arriva will be covering the costs involved, If MP Travel did decide to register the service, they will have to cover all of this.
I would say around 75% of passengers using this service have either Arriva Weekly & Day tickets and feed into the X1 from other Arriva services
RE: Arriva North West - Runcorn Depot - Liamkennedy2231 - 30/12/2020 12:35
Does anyone happen to have any update on the X1 please? On BusTimes the notes just say “Cancellation of Service”. Looking like it may become a tendered service?