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RE: Arriva North West - Bootle Depot - Penny Return - 09/11/2018 19:12

Scrapyard dodger 4170 on 52 again today


RE: Arriva North West - Bootle Depot - Barney - 09/11/2018 19:50

(09/11/2018 19:12)Penny Return Wrote:  Scrapyard dodger 4170 on 52 again today

At least it's a decker. Three years ago a batch of new Enviro400s was bought for this route and now we're back to Cadets.


RE: Arriva North West - Bootle Depot - Y458 KNF - 09/11/2018 20:58

(09/11/2018 19:12)Penny Return Wrote:  Scrapyard dodger 4170 on 52 again today

How long is it planned to remain in service being that it is 16 years old


RE: Arriva North West - Bootle Depot - Y727 KNF - 09/11/2018 22:24

(09/11/2018 20:58)darylyates17 Wrote:  How long is it planned to remain in service being that it is 16 years old

Until it gets withdrawn


RE: Arriva North West - Bootle Depot - Barney - 10/11/2018 10:24

(09/11/2018 20:58)darylyates17 Wrote:  How long is it planned to remain in service being that it is 16 years old

The vehicle's age isn't really the issue. As long as it's DDA compliant, is mechanically sound and is in reasonable condition internally it's good to go.

Unless there is a radical change of policy by Arriva nationally, the age profile is only going to get older.


RE: Arriva North West - Bootle Depot - MPTE1955 - 10/11/2018 10:46

All of not most of the cadets either refurbished or about to get refurbished tells us that age profiles are going to get older. Buses will be kept hold of longer, so time to get used to being on an older bus.


RE: Arriva North West - Bootle Depot - bus401 - 10/11/2018 13:49

An old bus is better than no bus.


RE: Arriva North West - Bootle Depot - Brickmill - 10/11/2018 14:34

(10/11/2018 10:24)Barney Wrote:  The vehicle's age isn't really the issue. As long as it's DDA compliant, is mechanically sound and is in reasonable condition internally it's good to go.

Unless there is a radical change of policy by Arriva nationally, the age profile is only going to get older.

Absolutely. I have been on a few of the Wythenshawe ones and the seating is/was as good as anything else locally - far better than the threadbare 10yo Enviro400s of Stagecoach at Hyde Road.


RE: Arriva North West - Bootle Depot - M113 YKC - 10/11/2018 14:45

2495 is on the 310 today. 2494 is on the 62.


RE: Arriva North West - Bootle Depot - RedPanda - 10/11/2018 15:15

(10/11/2018 10:24)Barney Wrote:  The vehicle's age isn't really the issue. As long as it's DDA compliant, is mechanically sound and is in reasonable condition internally it's good to go.

Unless there is a radical change of policy by Arriva nationally, the age profile is only going to get older.

To add to Barney’s comment

Think of what orders have been placed this year, absolutely nothing apart from a few down south if I remember rightly but have since been cancelled. If there’s no order to replace older stock or replace cascades, then nothing will get withdrawn unless damage structurally or mechanicaly is financially unviable.