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RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - busesdotorg1920x - 14/04/2017 09:08
(13/04/2017 15:09)pete tierney Wrote: I was sent this from a friend, not checked yet how it fits with the above.
Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC
10866 to 10881 for Cambridge
10882 to 10888 for Birkenhead
10889 to 10895 for Winchester
10896 to 10901 for Gainsborough
10902 to 10905 for Oxford
10906 to 10927 for Kilmarnock
Volvo B5LH
13111 to 13117 for Arbroath
Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 11.8M
26141 to 26145 for Stockport
26146 to 26165 for Portsmouth
26166 to 26171 for Dunfermline
26172 to 26177 for Guildford
Alexander Dennis Enviro200MMC 10.8M
37451 to 37474 for Porth
37475 to 37480 for Barnsley
37481 to 37490 for Lincoln
37491 to 37515 for Nuneaton
37516 to 37524 for Guildford
Scania N230UD/Alexander Dennis Enviro400MMC
15291 to 15294 for Fenstanton
15295 to 15305 for Preston
15306 to 15327 for Torquay
15328 to 15339 for Eastbourne
15340 to 15349 for Swindon
Volvo B8RLE
21311 to 21312 for Fenstanton
Volvo Coaches
53401 to 53409 for Dunfermline
54351 to 54355 for Macduff
54356 to 54361 for Glenrothes
54362 to 54363 for Perth
54401 to 54403 for Chesterfield
54821 to 54825 for Inverness
54826 to 54834 for Bedford
Volvo B5TL Open Topper
13801 to 13807 for Kendal
This doesn't seem to fit quite with the above, 59 integral Enviro 400 MMCs I can confirm are not in this list. Not sure about the Gilmoss and Manchester ones, they may add up if you include those?
The Volvo B5TL open toppers do fit, there seems to be one Scania missing however?
Pretty sure 4 of the 11.8m Enviro 200 MMCs are missing, and there seems to be 11 extra 10.8m variants!
Not going to bother checking the rest of the list, but this seems to be the bulk of the order.
This is assuming I now how to count, so there may be some form of human error.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - B10B6514 - 14/04/2017 09:43
The Preston Scanias are for the X2.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - pete tierney - 14/04/2017 12:50
(13/04/2017 15:25)Y474 KNF Wrote: Thanks for sharing. It does look right on first glance but there's still quite a lot of unknowns:
10928-10987 are unaccounted for
There's no mention of Volvo B5LHs in the confirmed order list
26178-26202 are unaccounted for
There's only 40 Enviro200 midis on order - the list shows 74
I've been informed that the short Enviro200's, (3xxxx) for Nuneaton have been altered to longer Enviro200's, (2xxxx).
Could these be 26178-26202??
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - volvodart - 15/04/2017 07:42
(13/04/2017 15:25)Y474 KNF Wrote: There's no mention of Volvo B5LHs in the confirmed order list
They are in the current year's order and due to enter service imminently.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - Nicholas - 18/04/2017 19:28
(18/04/2017 07:21)busesdotorg1920x Wrote: Just realised, there is a high chance that Swindon will have their MMCs on the 55 due to the new Thamesdown R1. Not sure if Stagecoach will increase the frequency on this route but I would hope they do. Go-Ahead and Stagecoach seem to be in bus wars in lots of areas: Newcastle, Oxford and now Swindon!
Stagecoach are indeed increasing the 55, as they are hell bent on creating an unnecessary bus war, and it wouldn't have necessarily been against Go Ahead. They registered the new service 3 on the day Thamesdown was acquired, so they had that ready to go up against whoever bought the company.
As for other areas, competition isn't that intensive between Stagecoach and Go Ahead - in Oxford there is the Quality Bus Partnership, meaning timetables are co-ordinated and tickets are valid on either operator. And in Newcastle, the impression I get is that co-existence is peaceful.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - markydh - 18/04/2017 19:50
(18/04/2017 19:28)Nicholas Wrote: Stagecoach are indeed increasing the 55, as they are hell bent on creating an unnecessary bus war, and it wouldn't have necessarily been against Go Ahead. They registered the new service 3 on the day Thamesdown was acquired, so they had that ready to go up against whoever bought the company.
As for other areas, competition isn't that intensive between Stagecoach and Go Ahead - in Oxford there is the Quality Bus Partnership, meaning timetables are co-ordinated and tickets are valid on either operator. And in Newcastle, the impression I get is that co-existence is peaceful.
There's pretty much no direct competition between Arriva, Go North East and Stagecoach in much of the city. There are small pockets in the likes of Byker and Walkergate but other than that, nothing. There's a bit more competition in South Shields and Sunderland, but it's still minimal.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - busesdotorg1920x - 19/04/2017 14:25
(18/04/2017 19:28)Nicholas Wrote: Stagecoach are indeed increasing the 55, as they are hell bent on creating an unnecessary bus war, and it wouldn't have necessarily been against Go Ahead. They registered the new service 3 on the day Thamesdown was acquired, so they had that ready to go up against whoever bought the company.
As for other areas, competition isn't that intensive between Stagecoach and Go Ahead - in Oxford there is the Quality Bus Partnership, meaning timetables are co-ordinated and tickets are valid on either operator. And in Newcastle, the impression I get is that co-existence is peaceful.
In Oxford you have the 7/500 which both were changed/created to go Oxford - Oxford Parkway - Woodstock which is it.
Looking back to Newcastle, I guess it is pretty peaceful. I was thinking of the X24 which only really rivals the metro!
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - busesdotorg1920x - 19/04/2017 14:27
(18/04/2017 19:28)Nicholas Wrote: Stagecoach are indeed increasing the 55, as they are hell bent on creating an unnecessary bus war, and it wouldn't have necessarily been against Go Ahead. They registered the new service 3 on the day Thamesdown was acquired, so they had that ready to go up against whoever bought the company.
As for other areas, competition isn't that intensive between Stagecoach and Go Ahead - in Oxford there is the Quality Bus Partnership, meaning timetables are co-ordinated and tickets are valid on either operator. And in Newcastle, the impression I get is that co-existence is peaceful.
I would hope the new MMCs are on the 55, if the rumours are right Thamesdown are getting single-decker MMCs for the R1.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - pete tierney - 19/04/2017 15:33
(14/04/2017 12:50)pete tierney Wrote: I've been informed that the short Enviro200's, (3xxxx) for Nuneaton have been altered to longer Enviro200's, (2xxxx).
Could these be 26178-26202??
I believe Nuneaton are expecting 25 "longer" Enviro200's, so this could fit 26178-21202. This came from a Nuneaton driver to a friend of mine who lives there.
RE: Stagecoach Group 2017/18 order - pete tierney - 20/04/2017 08:36
I've just noticed on the "UK buses/Stagecoach page that Guildord are expecting Enviro200's 36491-36499.