+- Forum | Merseyside Dennis Dart Website (http://dartslf.com/forum)
+-- Forum: Buses (/forumdisplay.php?fid=1)
+--- Forum: Local Bus Scene: North West and Wales (/forumdisplay.php?fid=2)
+--- Thread: Warrington's Own Buses (/showthread.php?tid=170)
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262
RE: WBT Network Warrington - Valandil - 28/02/2018 18:08
The new 22(E) timetable from 08 April 2018 is now available:
https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travelling-around/timetables/AllTimetables/22%20Warrington%20-%20Vulcan%20Village%20or%20Wigan%20(from%208%20April%202018).pdf
A few things of note:
○ Burtonwood loses this evening service, as the 'loop' at Earlestown is quite small, heading back to Newton-le-Willows via Acorn Street
○ The evening and Sunday services to Wigan are still called 22E / 22, despite Network Warrington seeming to suggest previously that they would be called 360
○ It takes around an hour each way on the extended runs, so a 2 hour 6 minute round trip on a Sunday, meaning that there is almost certain to be quite a bit of interworking.
(The 22 will probably still work onto a 15 on a Sunday, but less sure what it will work off - most likely candidate I would say is 26/27, or failing that the 16).
○ Network Warrington will be running a Sunday evening service again for the first time in many years, but not into Warrington (it will be Wigan - Newton-le-Willows only) - it looks like this will work off the 22 which leaves Warrington at 17:16
RE: WBT Network Warrington - St Helens Rider - 28/02/2018 18:43
Surprised they didn't decide to run the last Sunday evening journey back through to Warrington to reduce dead mileage. It wouldn't have to do the Earlestown loop - just a straight last run down Winwick Road which I presume the bus will be doing but out of service.
RE: WBT Network Warrington - Valandil - 28/02/2018 18:45
(28/02/2018 18:43)St Helens Rider Wrote: Surprised they didn't decide to run the last Sunday evening journey back through to Warrington to reduce dead mileage. It wouldn't have to do the Earlestown loop - just a straight last run down Winwick Road which I presume the bus will be doing but out of service.
That's a good point!
I wonder if it is just in an effort to maintain absolutely no Sunday evening service in Warrington?!
RE: WBT Network Warrington - iMarkeh - 01/03/2018 01:09
Did anyone go to the thing in Stockton Heath yesterday to see the planned changes?
RE: WBT Network Warrington - knutstransport - 01/03/2018 11:54
(28/02/2018 18:43)St Helens Rider Wrote: Surprised they didn't decide to run the last Sunday evening journey back through to Warrington to reduce dead mileage. It wouldn't have to do the Earlestown loop - just a straight last run down Winwick Road which I presume the bus will be doing but out of service.
Is there really any point in running a last service 5 hours after the previous service on a Sunday evening?
RE: WBT Network Warrington - Valandil - 01/03/2018 12:03
(01/03/2018 11:54)knutstransport Wrote: Is there really any point in running a last service 5 hours after the previous service on a Sunday evening?
It wouldn't make much money, granted, but the bus will be heading back to Warrington anyway.
I would use it when in the area, admittedly not frequently, but maybe to get a photo of a Warrington bus with Newton-le-Willows on the front or see Wigan buses at night etc. but if there is no service back to Warrington then that isn't possible.
RE: WBT Network Warrington - RedPanda - 01/03/2018 12:55
(01/03/2018 11:54)knutstransport Wrote: Is there really any point in running a last service 5 hours after the previous service on a Sunday evening?
Network Warrington is a business as is all other bus/coach operators. If its empty, it isn’t making money. If there’s one or two, then its a few extra pounds for them.
RE: WBT Network Warrington - knutstransport - 01/03/2018 13:04
(01/03/2018 12:55)RedPanda Wrote: Network Warrington is a business as is all other bus/coach operators. If its empty, it isn’t making money. If there’s one or two, then its a few extra pounds for them.
If the bus runs straight back to the depot from Newton-le-Willows it'll probably take around 25 minutes. If it runs in service it'll take just under 40 to get to the bus station and will then have to run to the depot. If it runs in service and they don't take any additional fares (e.g. if no one board or those who board have weekly passes or are ENCTS holders) then they could actually lose money by running it back in service instead of empty.
RE: WBT Network Warrington - St Helens Rider - 01/03/2018 13:34
What's being thought about here as well is the through journey opportunity from Wigan/Golborne/Newton. Even if the company didn't wish to run it as a service, why not have an arrangement where the service continues to Warrington on a set down only basis from Newton (this has in the past been the case with some 22 (and 602 previously as was) late journeys).
RE: WBT Network Warrington - Brickmill - 01/03/2018 16:57
(01/03/2018 12:55)RedPanda Wrote: Network Warrington is a business as is all other bus/coach operators.
That's open to debate on so many levels............