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(19/03/2014 22:41)Busser Wrote: [ -> ]Is 1 a spare vehicle then or does the 375/385 actually require 9 buses? I thought it was 8.

Yes, the PVR is 8 and the order includes a spare bus. Arriva often include a spare or two in their purchases.
(19/03/2014 22:14)Busser Wrote: [ -> ]i hope the 9 double deckers for Southport can be a DB300 if they can still be ordered or even a Gemini 3 i hope they are at least wright bodied double deckers.

Southport are getting ADL Enviro E40D vehicles.
enviro 400 are good buses in my opinion if the like stagecoach one there a nice ride
(20/03/2014 15:26)Harryn9000 Wrote: [ -> ]enviro 400 are good buses in my opinion if the like stagecoach one there a nice ride

I know they are good buses overall i just prefer Wrightbus Myself Smile With the exception of those awful b5l hybrids. And the horrible low height bodywork that Arriva likes to order for there Wright Double Deckers.
Updated Order List March 19 2014

Arriva North East
29 Wrightbus StreetLite Max
8 Wrightbus Pulsar 2
12 Alexander Dennis Enviro400 (6 Sapphire, 6 normal Arriva specification) - Thanks kuyoyo (22.03.14)

Arriva North West
19 Unknown Double Deck
9 Alexander Dennis Enviro400 (Southport, thanks B10B6514)
6 Wrightbus Pulsar 2

Arriva Buses Wales
20 Alexander Dennis Enviro400
15 Wrightbus Pulsar 2

Arriva Yorkshire
4 Optare Solo SR
15 to 20 unknown minibuses (thanks Wright Eclipse)

Arriva Midlands
29 Wrightbus Pulsar 2
18 Wrightbus StreetLite Max
?? Double Deckers

Arriva Southern Counties (includes Kent, Essex, Bucks, etc)
22 Wrightbus StreetLite Max
8 Wrightbus StreetLite EV
2 Alexander Dennis Enviro400

Known to be for Arriva, but mystery destination

1 Wrightbus StreetLite Max Micro Hybrid

Make Model Quantity Ordered
Wrightbus StreetLite Max 70
Wrightbus Pulsar 2 58
Alexander Dennis Enviro400 43
Unknown Double Deck 19
Unknown Minibus 15 to 20
Wrightbus StreetLite EV 8
Optare Solo SR 4
Total Vehicles Ordered So Far 217 to 222
Does anyone know if Arriva will go for Euro 5 or Euro 6 Enviro 400's for Southport?
Arriva yorkshire are also getting around 15-20 minibuses (not confirmed what sort) to replace mpds at wakefield
(20/03/2014 18:33)Busser Wrote: [ -> ]Does anyone know if Arriva will go for Euro 5 or Euro 6 Enviro 400's for Southport?

Most things will be Euro 5 I would have imagined.
The amount of Euro5 products that can be delivered in 2014 is very restricted.

Euro6 exemptions apply for UK models and for a maximum of 250 of each model (which must have been produced at Euro5) - I am imagining the Streetlite must be nearing hitting that limit gvien the First order.

Foreign based models such as Volvo, even where bodied by Wrights do not meet the criteria for Euro6 exemption.

As for the SB200 ... yes it is being produced as a Euro6 model, but not offered with a RHD option, and loads of LHD SB200s wont be of much used travelling around the centre of Merseyside
(21/03/2014 13:35)steve517757 Wrote: [ -> ]The amount of Euro5 products that can be delivered in 2014 is very restricted.

Euro6 exemptions apply for UK models and for a maximum of 250 of each model (which must have been produced at Euro5) - I am imagining the Streetlite must be nearing hitting that limit gvien the First order.

Foreign based models such as Volvo, even where bodied by Wrights do not meet the criteria for Euro6 exemption.

As for the SB200 ... yes it is being produced as a Euro6 model, but not offered with a RHD option, and loads of LHD SB200s wont be of much used travelling around the centre of Merseyside

Thanks Steve, I'm glad things have been cleared up regarding VDL, as the situation wasn't the clearest.

With the number of StreetLites ordered by First (301 if I remember rightly) they'll have used up the entire Euro 5 StreetLite builds for this year. In fact, I think I remember reading somewhere that First have conceded that some of the StreetLites they have ordered may be delivered as Euro 6 models.

It looks like the StreetLite Max may well be Arriva's new standard single decker then.
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