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VLW21-48/51 are all withdrawn from Wood Green off the 141/144/221. VLW25/7/9-33 have resurfaced with Arriva Southern Counties but that leaves 21 (plus VLW28) unaccounted for.

VLW28 is at st helens getting converted then is being based at st helens for schools so im assuming theres to be another one for st helens as we are suppose to be getting 2.

(25/10/2013 20:13)B10B6514 Wrote: [ -> ]Heard there's some VLWs due for Southport to replace DLAs December time and also some brand new out of the box deckers for the 375s next April

Will the B7s return to speke when the newbies arrive?

(25/10/2013 20:13)B10B6514 Wrote: [ -> ]Heard there's some VLWs due for Southport to replace DLAs December time and also some brand new out of the box deckers for the 375s next April

Do you mean that route 375 will gain double-deckers of a brand new design (such as Volvo B5TL)?

(27/10/2013 19:59)Metroline1511 Wrote: [ -> ]

(25/10/2013 20:13)B10B6514 Wrote: [ -> ]Heard there's some VLWs due for Southport to replace DLAs December time and also some brand new out of the box deckers for the 375s next April

Do you mean that route 375 will gain double-deckers of a brand new design (such as Volvo B5TL)?

It won't get the B5TL as Arriva only buy them as part of the Green Fund scheme, new deckers would be the standard lowheight VDL DB300's

(27/10/2013 21:17)Raawwwrrr! Wrote: [ -> ]It won't get the B5TL as Arriva only buy them as part of the Green Fund scheme, new deckers would be the standard lowheight VDL DB300's

I think you're confusing the B5L and the B5TL. The B5TL is a brand new diesel decker using the euro 6 engine, so it wouldn't be purchased as part of the Green Bus Fund.

That being said, it is unlikely Arriva would go for B5TLs on current form. For Southport, I would expect VDL DB300s with high-backed (possibly leather) seating. As for the B7s, one good use if they don't go back to Speke would be on the 47/48. There aren't enough to fully convert this route to double deck operation, but it would be a start.

(27/10/2013 21:20)507009 Wrote: [ -> ]

(27/10/2013 21:17)Raawwwrrr! Wrote: [ -> ]It won't get the B5TL as Arriva only buy them as part of the Green Fund scheme, new deckers would be the standard lowheight VDL DB300's

I think you're confusing the B5L and the B5TL. The B5TL is a brand new diesel decker using the euro 6 engine, so it wouldn't be purchased as part of the Green Bus Fund.

That being said, it is unlikely Arriva would go for B5TLs on current form. For Southport, I would expect VDL DB300s with high-backed (possibly leather) seating. As for the B7s, one good use if they don't go back to Speke would be on the 47/48. There aren't enough to fully convert this route to double deck operation, but it would be a start.

Ooops, indeed!

They could even convert them 47/48 to Sapphire with them, plus some spares from Speke if the 86 gets new deckers next year too....theres an idea!

(29/10/2013 12:41)mr t Wrote: [ -> ]They could even convert them 47/48 to Sapphire with them, plus some spares from Speke if the 86 gets new deckers next year too....theres an idea!

Very good idea. Personally, I think this should have been done already.

With thanks to those who have reported them so far here is a current list of DLPs in the North West:

4161 LJ51 DLN - Wythenshawe
4162 LJ51 DLZ - Wythenshawe
4163 LJ51 DLX - Wythenshawe
4164 LJ51 DKY - Wythenshawe
4165 LF02 PKD - Wythenshawe
4166 LF52 UPS - Wythenshawe
4167 LJ51 DLD - Wythenshawe
4168 LJ51 DLU - Wythenshawe
4170 LF02 PKA - Bolton
4171 LJ51 DLK - Bolton
4173 LF52 URG - Bolton
4174 LF52 URX - Bolton
4176 LJ51 OSY - Bolton

This list will be updated as and when more arrive