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Interesting, do you have full details of the changes to the 141?

Timetable change and route
Same with the 140 in a month or 2

the 20/34A changes was decided a while before hattons change came in

Valid from 16th September 2012:

86/86A/86D/86E (Liverpool - Garston/Liverpool - Liverpool South Parkway/Liverpool - John Lennon Airport)
The normal timetable is re-introduced. Buses on Routes 86, 86A and 86D run more often and the times are changed.
Buses on Route 86C also run more often - some of the route is now shown in this timetable.
Sunday and bank holiday Route 86E is re-introduced.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/86...02012).pdf


Valid from 7th October 2012:

201 (Royal Liverpool Hospital - Speke)
Route 201: the service is now operated for Merseytravel by ACE Travel.
Buses are extended to start and finish at the Morrisons supermarket in Speke. Some times are changed.
Route 801: this service is withdrawn.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_200/20...02012).pdf

272/274 (Arrowe Park Hospital - Ellesmere Port)
Routes 272 and 273: all Monday to Sunday evening and Sunday daytime buses are withdrawn.
(All the other services are unchanged.)
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_200/27...02012).pdf

800 (Speke - Liverpool Freeport)
The service is unchanged, but is now shown in this separate timetable.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_800/80...02012).pdf

835 (Northwood - Liverpool Freeport)
The service is now operated for Merseytravel by Maghull Coaches.
(Routes 800, 838 and 839 are now shown in separate timetables.)
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_800/83...02012).pdf

838 (Hunts Cross - Liverpool Freeport)
The service is unchanged, but is now shown in this separate timetable.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_800/83...02012).pdf

839 (Longview - Liverpool Freeport)
The service is unchanged, but is now shown in this separate timetable.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_800/83...02012).pdf


Interesting route 801 being withdrawn altogether, likewise 272/273 evenings/Sundays.

835 being operated by Maghull Coaches is a new one! - Is this Maghull's first 'normal' (as in not schools!) contract they've operated?

To confirm the contract changes 201 is currently Eazibus, 801 is currently Halton Transport, 272/273 eves/Sundays are currently Eazibus and 835 is currently Ace Travel.

Interestingly too on the 201 timetable the services towards Speke now correctly show Morrisons as the terminus however the services towards the Royal Hospital are still shown as starting at Eastern Avenue!

Travel News Update

Planned changes between 09 - 15 September 2012

http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/articleim...202012.pdf

The following services are changing on 09 September:

30 (Liverpool – Saughall Massie)
This service will be withdrawn.

39 (West Kirby – New Brighton)
Evening buses will be re-introduced, but will be re-numbered 39A and will be shortened to run between New Brighton and Moreton.

83 (Liverpool – Mossley Hill Hospital)
This service, operated by Stagecoach, will be withdrawn. See new Route 183.

84 (Liverpool – Penny Lane)
This service, operated by Stagecoach, will be withdrawn. See new Route 184.

183 (Liverpool – Penny Lane)
This new service, introduced by Avon Buses will run the same as the withdrawn Route 83, but the route will be extended to start and finish at Penny Lane. The times will be changed. One morning bus will start at Arrowe Park Hospital and will run via Prenton and Birkenhead to Liverpool.

184 (Liverpool – Penny Lane)
This new service, introduced by Avon Buses will run the same as the withdrawn Route 84, but the route will be extended to start and finish at Penny Lane. The times will be changed. One morning bus will start at Arrowe Park Hospital and will run via Prenton and Birkenhead to Liverpool.

Update - the following service changed on 12 August

68 (Bootle – Aigburth)
The Monday to Friday daytime frequency was increased to every 15 minutes from 02 September.

877 (Liverpool – Jaguar Land Rover Factory)
This service was withdrawn.

(31/08/2012 14:32)buses7675 Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting route 801 being withdrawn altogether, likewise 272/273 evenings/Sundays.

As the driver I had a few weeks back said, there's only one reason you'd travel from the hospital to Springwood Cemetery ... and in that case you'd probably get a hearse.
The only other passengers on the bus when I got it (all two of them) only caught it because it came a couple of minutes earlier than the bus they'd intended to catch, and was also heading towards the local shops!
So unless anyone knows differently, it seems to me like it was a waste of the council's money offering that service on contract.

As for the 86's, all these letters are immensely confusing to an outsider like me.
I understand the 86 and the 86a, but when there are also 86c, 86d and 86e, along with variations between Arriva and Stagecoach services as shown on the route map, it's a bit much! Different numbers please!
However, the service as a whole does look very good, and from my limited experience this seems to be a QBP that actually works!

That is a fair point really, though I guess some may go to visit graves etc which might explain why it is Sunday only. A little off topic, but did the 801 ever run on any other days or has it always been Sunday only?

The one time I rode it, a few years back, was a bit like your example above however, traveling from Asda on Smithdown Road to Woolworths Allerton Road as it arrived before the 86 did, however as an enthusiast I was quite glad to ride that route anyway as it was, and remains, my one and only ride on it!

Valid from 7th October 2012:

56/56A (Liverpool - Netherton)
Route 156: evening and Sunday buses are renumbered 56 and Saturday morning buses are renumbered 56A.
The times are unchanged.
(Arriva Routes 56 and 56A are unchanged.)
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/56...02012).pdf

62/62A/62B/162 (Penny Lane (Allerton) - Crosby/Penny Lane (Allerton) - North Park (Bootle))
Route 162: Sunday morning buses are now operated for Merseytravel by Cumfybus. These buses now run on bank holidays.
(Routes 62, 62A and 62B are unchanged.)
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_001/62...02012).pdf

156/256 (St Helens - Garswood or Ashton-in-Makerfield/Garswood - Ashton-in-Makerfield circular)
Route 156: evening and Sunday buses are now operated for Merseytravel by HTL Buses. The evening times at Blackbrook are changed by 2 minutes.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_100/15...02012).pdf

602/602 (Newton Community Hospital - Ashton or Ashton Heath)
Route 602: the service is now operated for Merseytravel by HTL Buses.
(Route 603 is unchanged.)
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_600/60...02012).pdf

827 (Old Swan - Kirkby Admin)
The morning bus is now operated for Merseytravel by HTL Buses.
The bus now starts from the bus stop on Prescot Road, near Derby Lane.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_800/82...02012).pdf

870 (Old Swan - Huyton Industrial Estate)
The 0815 bus is now operated for Merseytravel by HTL Buses.
The service now starts from the bus stop on Prescot Road near Green Lane.
http://merseytravel.gov.uk/pdf/tt_800/87...02012).pdf


From the above contract changes, 162 Sunday AM is currently run by Ace Travel, 156 Evenings/Sundays by Arriva, 602 by Arriva, 827 AM by Arriva, 870 08.15 by Ace Travel.

A couple of months late too, I've just noticed a new version of the Wirral Area Public Transport Map was out in July. I really like these maps as they are useful to work out how you can transfer between services though in some cases it can be difficult to work out which services go where on busy sections!

Merseytravel Wirral Area Public Transport Map - July 2012
http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/articleim...202012.pdf

(31/08/2012 14:58)buses7675 Wrote: [ -> ]Travel News Update

Planned changes between 09 - 15 September 2012

http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/articleim...202012.pdf

The following services are changing on 09 September:

30 Liverpool – Saughall Massie
This service will be withdrawn.

Thats funny the 30 was withdrawn a few weeks ago now! Thanks for the update Merseytravel