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(30/06/2013 13:07)WhiteVanMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(29/06/2013 12:28)cumbria0902150 Wrote: [ -> ]36891-36901 South East (Eastbourne) - Due August
36902-36908 South East (Dover) - Due August
36909-36917 South (Aldershot) - Due August
36908-36920 South (Andover) - Due August
36921-36925 South (Portsmouth) - Due August

Cumbria0902150, Can you please confirm that the above information is correct.

Just noticed a typo in the fleet numbers, but the dates are all correct. The batch for Andover should read 36918-36920, not 36908. 11 for Eastbourne, 7 for Dover, 9 for Aldershot, 3 for Andover, 4 for Portsmouth in standard livery, and 1 for Portsmouth in plain white (for Hoverbus service all over vinyl).
Delivery is 7 each week at 2nd, 9th, 16th, 23rd and 30th August. Obviously they might start appearing late in July or maybe spill over into September depending on ADL/Plaxton.

(30/06/2013 08:01)Southernsofty Wrote: [ -> ]

(29/06/2013 20:37)mbonwick Wrote: [ -> ]All vehicles delivered after 31st December need to be euro 6, and that is regardless of when they are ordered.

Cummins have been working with ADL for quite some time to develop their euro6 offering, and there should be no significant problems with the switchover. Indeed, we may actually see some euro6 vehicles sooner rather than later....


Order dates on the current sheet run right the way through to March 2014 already, but are of course subject to change.

Thanks for that info.
If order dates run through to March 2014, then some at least of current order are/will be Euro 6, Enviro 200s I would guess as most of everything else seems to have a planned delivery this side of the New Year.

All the diesel engined vehicles, in the current orders, are scheduled for delivery before the end of 2013. There are only hybrids due for delivery into 2014.

Frome the page below, new Enviro200's for Stagecoach London

http://www.thetflforum.co.uk/forum/showt...104&page=3

Stagecoach London: 25 10.8m Alexander-Dennis Enviro 200 (E20D) Dart 4s, seating B31D, are due for Rainham/Albright Industrial Estate (RM) depot for use on routes 165/256. Below are the registrations:
36556-LX13 CYY-D219/1-Updated 26/06/2013.
36557-LX13 CYZ-D219/2-Updated 26/06/2013.
36558-LX13 CZA-D219/3-Updated 26/06/2013.
36559-LX13 CZB-D219/4-Updated 28/06/2013.
36560-LX13 CZC-D219/5-Updated 28/06/2013.
36561-LX13 CZD-D219/6-Updated 28/06/2013.
36562-LX13 CZE-D219/7-Updated 28/06/2013.
36563-LX13 CZF-D219/8-Updated 28/06/2013.
36564-LX13 CZG-D219/9-Updated 28/06/2013.
36565-LX13 CZH-D219/10-Updated 28/06/2013.
36566-LX13 CZJ-D219/11-Updated 28/06/2013.
36567-LX13 CZK-D219/12-Updated 28/06/2013.
36568-LX13 CZL-D219/13-Updated 28/06/2013.
36569-LX13 CZM-D219/14-Updated 28/06/2013.
36570-LX13 CZN-D219/15-Updated 28/06/2013.
36571-LX13 CZO-D219/16-Updated 28/06/2013.
36572-LX13 CZP-D219/17-Updated 28/06/2013.
36573-LX13 CZR-D219/18-Updated 28/06/2013.
36574-LX13 CZS-D219/19-Updated 28/06/2013.
36575-LX13 CZT-D219/20-Updated 28/06/2013.
36576-LX13 CZU-D219/21-Updated 28/06/2013.
36577-LX13 CZV-D219/22-Updated 28/06/2013.
36578-LX13 CZW-D219/23-Updated 28/06/2013.
36579-LX13 CZY-D219/24-Updated 28/06/2013.
36580-LX13 CZZ-D219/25-Updated 28/06/2013.

Read more: http://www.thetflforum.co.uk/forum/showt...z2XibK4XjQ

(30/06/2013 15:59)Neukit Wrote: [ -> ]

(30/06/2013 08:01)Southernsofty Wrote: [ -> ]

(29/06/2013 20:37)mbonwick Wrote: [ -> ]All vehicles delivered after 31st December need to be euro 6, and that is regardless of when they are ordered.

Cummins have been working with ADL for quite some time to develop their euro6 offering, and there should be no significant problems with the switchover. Indeed, we may actually see some euro6 vehicles sooner rather than later....


Order dates on the current sheet run right the way through to March 2014 already, but are of course subject to change.

Thanks for that info.
If order dates run through to March 2014, then some at least of current order are/will be Euro 6, Enviro 200s I would guess as most of everything else seems to have a planned delivery this side of the New Year.

All the diesel engined vehicles, in the current orders, are scheduled for delivery before the end of 2013. There are only hybrids due for delivery into 2014.

So,
All Scania/E40 accounted for.
38 Hybrid E40H - Due Manchester 2014.
45 E30D accounted for, 13 E30D outstanding, due by December 2013.
17 Scania/E30 Gas buses accounted for. 20 Scania/E30 gas buses cancelled? (Green bus funding didn't happen, any replacements/more info??)
45 E20D accounted for, 105 E20D outstanding, due by December 2013.
All Solos accounted for (includes additional order for 3 over & above original.
1 Optare Versa accounted for.
10 Van Hool Astromega 'sleeper' coaches accounted for.
10 Volvo B13R/Plaxton Panther 15m for Citylink (Glasgow)accounted for.
8 Volvo B13R/Plaxton Elite 15m for 'Express' (Aberhill) accounted for.
10 Volvo B11R Plaxton interdeck for Megabus (Glasgow) accounted for.
10 Van Hool Altano left hand drive for 'Megabus' (Rugby) accounted for.
Given the number of coaches due at Glasgow I assume more 2007 B12B will be returned to the leasing company?
Anyone care to comment/correct?

(01/07/2013 06:54)Southernsofty Wrote: [ -> ]

(30/06/2013 15:59)Neukit Wrote: [ -> ]

(30/06/2013 08:01)Southernsofty Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for that info.
If order dates run through to March 2014, then some at least of current order are/will be Euro 6, Enviro 200s I would guess as most of everything else seems to have a planned delivery this side of the New Year.

All the diesel engined vehicles, in the current orders, are scheduled for delivery before the end of 2013. There are only hybrids due for delivery into 2014.

So,
All Scania/E40 accounted for.
38 Hybrid E40H - Due Manchester 2014.
45 E30D accounted for, 13 E30D outstanding, due by December 2013.
17 Scania/E30 Gas buses accounted for. 20 Scania/E30 gas buses cancelled? (Green bus funding didn't happen, any replacements/more info??)
45 E20D accounted for, 105 E20D outstanding, due by December 2013.
All Solos accounted for (includes additional order for 3 over & above original.
1 Optare Versa accounted for.
10 Van Hool Astromega 'sleeper' coaches accounted for.
10 Volvo B13R/Plaxton Panther 15m for Citylink (Glasgow)accounted for.
8 Volvo B13R/Plaxton Elite 15m for 'Express' (Aberhill) accounted for.
10 Volvo B11R Plaxton interdeck for Megabus (Glasgow) accounted for.
10 Van Hool Altano left hand drive for 'Megabus' (Rugby) accounted for.
Given the number of coaches due at Glasgow I assume more 2007 B12B will be returned to the leasing company?
Anyone care to comment/correct?

I believe the Interdecker are for Rugby not Glasgow.

(01/07/2013 06:54)Southernsofty Wrote: [ -> ]

(30/06/2013 15:59)Neukit Wrote: [ -> ]

(30/06/2013 08:01)Southernsofty Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for that info.
If order dates run through to March 2014, then some at least of current order are/will be Euro 6, Enviro 200s I would guess as most of everything else seems to have a planned delivery this side of the New Year.

All the diesel engined vehicles, in the current orders, are scheduled for delivery before the end of 2013. There are only hybrids due for delivery into 2014.

So,
All Scania/E40 accounted for.
38 Hybrid E40H - Due Manchester 2014.
45 E30D accounted for, 13 E30D outstanding, due by December 2013.
17 Scania/E30 Gas buses accounted for. 20 Scania/E30 gas buses cancelled? (Green bus funding didn't happen, any replacements/more info??)
45 E20D accounted for, 105 E20D outstanding, due by December 2013.
All Solos accounted for (includes additional order for 3 over & above original.
1 Optare Versa accounted for.
10 Van Hool Astromega 'sleeper' coaches accounted for.
10 Volvo B13R/Plaxton Panther 15m for Citylink (Glasgow)accounted for.
8 Volvo B13R/Plaxton Elite 15m for 'Express' (Aberhill) accounted for.
10 Volvo B11R Plaxton interdeck for Megabus (Glasgow) accounted for.
10 Van Hool Altano left hand drive for 'Megabus' (Rugby) accounted for.
Given the number of coaches due at Glasgow I assume more 2007 B12B will be returned to the leasing company?
Anyone care to comment/correct?

*Update*
Reported 13 E20D due for Yorkshire, 9 for Chesterfield, 4 for Holbrook.
14 E20D due for South Wales (December)

All very well saying everything is accounted for, but you forget the extension to the order which is released around September and already includes 30+ more Scania Enviro400s....

(01/07/2013 10:26)mbonwick Wrote: [ -> ]All very well saying everything is accounted for, but you forget the extension to the order which is released around September and already includes 30+ more Scania Enviro400s....

First I've heard of it!!!
When you say 'released around September' is this a regular 'fixed' revision date?
Thank you anyway!

There is no fixed date, no.

If we look back at previous years, the extension to the order included;
2012/3 - 11 Enviro300, 41 Enviro200s
2011/2 - 13 Enviro400, 25 Enviro300s

(01/07/2013 10:26)mbonwick Wrote: [ -> ]All very well saying everything is accounted for, but you forget the extension to the order which is released around September and already includes 30+ more Scania Enviro400s....

First I've heard of it!!!
When you say 'released around September' is this a regular 'fixed' revision date?
Thank you anyway!