It seems that Arriva are not using Carlisle Bus Station for the 185 and 685 services at the moment. Is there some dispute with Stagecoach? Not sure if this is connected with Arriva working on some 185 duties. Yesterday an Arriva bus working a 185 to Haltwhistle, which departed from the sweet shop outside the bus station at 1:20pm, was only a few minutes in front of a Telford's vehicle on the same service. The Arriva driver left his vehicle to get the passengers from the stand and the Telford's vehicle consequently left empty.
(07/09/2014 17:39)bkp550 Wrote: [ -> ]It seems that Arriva are not using Carlisle Bus Station for the 185 and 685 services at the moment. Is there some dispute with Stagecoach? Not sure if this is connected with Arriva working on some 185 duties. Yesterday an Arriva bus working a 185 to Haltwhistle, which departed from the sweet shop outside the bus station at 1:20pm, was only a few minutes in front of a Telford's vehicle on the same service. The Arriva driver left his vehicle to get the passengers from the stand and the Telford's vehicle consequently left empty.
The problem is that the 185 at 1320 is a new service and the usual stand for the 685 (stand 5) is occupied by the incoming 179/outgoing 79 at that time; the adjacent stands are also in use. Arriva are still using stand 5 for the usual 685 journeys.
The Telford's vehicle you saw would have been the incoming 185 service which then departs light - presumably back to Newcastleton on a non-schoolday, it does a Brampton school run on schooldays.
Having said that, I suppose Stagecoach management will not be too happy that these 185 journeys now operate along the main road through Warwick Bridge instead of Crosby on Eden as previously.
(09/09/2014 13:40)enrag2000 Wrote: [ -> ]The problem is that the 185 at 1320 is a new service and the usual stand for the 685 (stand 5) is occupied by the incoming 179/outgoing 79 at that time; the adjacent stands are also in use. Arriva are still using stand 5 for the usual 685 journeys.
The Telford's vehicle you saw would have been the incoming 185 service which then departs light - presumably back to Newcastleton on a non-schoolday, it does a Brampton school run on schooldays.
Having said that, I suppose Stagecoach management will not be too happy that these 185 journeys now operate along the main road through Warwick Bridge instead of Crosby on Eden as previously.
Thanks enrag. That explains it a little more clearly.
More vehicles at Lillyhall are 22160 and 27766 from Carlisle, with 27767 to follow shortly. 22160 was in service today.
(09/09/2014 13:40)enrag2000 Wrote: [ -> ]The problem is that the 185 at 1320 is a new service and the usual stand for the 685 (stand 5) is occupied by the incoming 179/outgoing 79 at that time; the adjacent stands are also in use. Arriva are still using stand 5 for the usual 685 journeys.
The Telford's vehicle you saw would have been the incoming 185 service which then departs light - presumably back to Newcastleton on a non-schoolday, it does a Brampton school run on schooldays.
Having said that, I suppose Stagecoach management will not be too happy that these 185 journeys now operate along the main road through Warwick Bridge instead of Crosby on Eden as previously.
I was in Carlisle today and happened to walk past the Lowther Street northbound bus stop outside the Club Britannia and there was a Cumbria CC style notice stating "Arriva Service 185 to Haltwhistle - The Arriva service 185 to Haltwhistle via Low Row and Gilsland at 13.20 will depart from this stop until further notice." Oh - and in the bus station there is no mention of Arriva or Telford 185 journeys - the only 185 journeys that appear are as part of the Stagecoach 685 Brampton summary timetable and are for Stagecoach journeys - evening and Sundays.
And it is not just 185 journeys that now run through Warwick Bridge.
Reays have extended their 500 Carlisle<> Wigton service as of 8 September 2014 to now run Brampton (Dacre Road) <> Warwick Bridge <> Carlisle <> Wigton every 2 hours - 4 round trips on schooldays and 5 roundtrips on Saturdays using 2 double deckers. So far I have see 5 persons or less on each double decker so how long it will last I do not know. Reyas have an updated timetable on stand 2 in the bus station and the bus station 'map' shows Reays 500 to use stand 2. But yesterday the Reays 500 to Brampton pulled into stand 4 or 5 (next to the normal 685/185 stand) and after a short wait a few (4?) passengers waiting for the 685 Brampton got on the Reays bus.
So quite a few changes on the 685/185/Brampton<>Carlisle route corrider this month all arising from Cumbria County Council deciding to withdraw bus subsidy support for bus services. [Note - need to add more info here at a later date/time on the other changes].
20965 is at morecambe possibly on loan.
20945 is at morecambe with 20965 going to kendal,22824 is at carlisle for repaint,16795 is getting prepped for repaint,34707 is now a morecambe depot bus,22104 and 34079 have gone to the scrapyard.
Tridents 17196-9/212 have arrived at Carlisle from East Scotland. Two MAN 18.220's, 22377/8, are also at Carlisle. Is this where they will be based, or are they going elsewhere, and what for?
The MANs and 17212 are for onward movement.
Ferryhill Motors Enviro200 FM36 (MX14FUP) is on loan at Carlisle to cover for accident-damaged 37093 and is in use on service 400 (Carlisle-Silloth/Blackwell).