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Is the move to Arrowe Park Hospital for the 47 the precursor to something else operating via Saughall Massie .

Im not being critical but some of these services are being chopped and changed so many times now .
(07/06/2013 16:36)wirralbus Wrote: [ -> ]Is the move to Arrowe Park Hospital for the 47 the precursor to something else operating via Saughall Massie .
As far as I know, nothing else will replace the link.
(07/06/2013 16:17)KU02 YUH Wrote: [ -> ]Surprisingly, Impera's 47 will soon (from 29/07/2013 - when all changes should be commencing from [there's more to come...!]) be running as normal from Birkenhead Bus Station to Upton Road, then via Arrowe Park Road to Arrowe Park Hospital (albeit not serving Saughall Massie) - but, more surprisingly, a DAILY timetable will be in place! On Sundays, this leaves Birkenhead Bus Station just after the Merseytravel 203, which also runs to Arrowe Park Hospital with cheaper fares; also, Merseytravel fares apply on the 492/495... Certainly an interesting move!

Timetable:
http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travellin...02013).pdf

Hmmm 47 departs just after the 203, more like 12 minutes after the 203, the 47 is 14-44 from Birkenhead whilst the 203 is 02-32, although the first 47 is 6:14am whilst 203 is 7:02am.
On a Sunday , the 0614 trip should actually start with its return working at 0645 from Arrowe park hospital , the 0644 trip should start at a point enroute at Bidston Village Road at 0657 towards Arrowe Park Hospital. Weekdays can not see a problem .

What is Merseytravel's policy on part route competition between commercial and tendered operation as the 118/119 (Evenings and Sundays) will follow the same route between Tollemache Road and Arrowe Park Hospital .
The evening and Sunday 47 seems a bit pointless, due to the Merseytravel Contract fares between Birkenhead and Beechwood (492/495) & St James Church - Arrowe Park (118 & 119)

Here are the new VOSA's for their services, looks like the 16 isnt getting withdrawn now:
PC1101681/1 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between The Wallasey School and Upton Station given service number 637/621 effective from 02-Jun-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
PC1101681/22 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between New Brighton and West Kirby` given service number 39/39c effective from 29-Jul-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
PC1101681/29 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wirral Grammar School and Thingwall Corner given service number 622 effective from 02-Sep-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
PC1101681/31 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between New Brighton, Kings Prarade and Liverpool given service number 31/31A effective from 29-Jul-2013. To amend Timetable.
PC1101681/32 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Pasture Road, Moreton and Birkenhead Bus Station given service number 47 effective from 29-Jul-2013. To amend Timetable.
PC1101681/34 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Town Meadow Lane, Moreton and Sir Thomas Street, Liverpool given service number 98 effective from 29-Jul-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
PC1101681/35 - IMPERA BUS AND COACH LTD, 21 TARRAN WAY NORTH, MORETON, WIRRAL, CH46 4UA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Harrison Drive and Birkenhead Bus Station given service number 16/15 effective from 29-Jul-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
(07/06/2013 17:06)KU02 YUH Wrote: [ -> ]
(07/06/2013 16:36)wirralbus Wrote: [ -> ]Is the move to Arrowe Park Hospital for the 47 the precursor to something else operating via Saughall Massie .
As far as I know, nothing else will replace the link.

I wonder if the 98 will go through Saughall Massie because that's due to change as well
It would be quite amusing to see two 15's at Harrison Drive... if both services where to run on the same day/time.
(08/06/2013 13:15)busdude Wrote: [ -> ]
(07/06/2013 17:06)KU02 YUH Wrote: [ -> ]
(07/06/2013 16:36)wirralbus Wrote: [ -> ]Is the move to Arrowe Park Hospital for the 47 the precursor to something else operating via Saughall Massie .
As far as I know, nothing else will replace the link.
I wonder if the 98 will go through Saughall Massie because that's due to change as well
I really hope that there will be no major changes to the 98. People are just getting to know the service and patronage is increasing.

Meanwhile, the 39 has been changed from the 29th of July to serve Town Meadow Lane again. This is a change that will benefit the service - more running time (four buses will be on the service) and more journeys in the evening.
Timetable - http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travellin...02013).pdf
(10/06/2013 10:16)KU02 YUH Wrote: [ -> ]
(08/06/2013 13:15)busdude Wrote: [ -> ]
(07/06/2013 17:06)KU02 YUH Wrote: [ -> ]As far as I know, nothing else will replace the link.
I wonder if the 98 will go through Saughall Massie because that's due to change as well
I really hope that there will be no major changes to the 98. People are just getting to know the service and patronage is increasing.

Meanwhile, the 39 has been changed from the 29th of July to serve Town Meadow Lane again. This is a change that will benefit the service - more running time (four buses will be on the service) and more journeys in the evening.
Timetable - http://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/travellin...02013).pdf

I hope not to, but by the looks of it, i have a feeling that it will be extended to serve to Saughall Massie omitting town Meadow, and travelling up Hoylake road. Kind of makes sense because of the 47 not serving there anymore and the 39 serving town meadow again.
Time now after these alterations for the company to settle down , how many times do you see the likes of Stagecoach and arriva alter routes to a large extent , they usually just leave it to about once a year , people do not like change when it comes to travel habits .
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