(31/08/2015 18:02)Daniel Anderton Wrote: [ -> ]If you look at post #1748 it has been mentioned that 4170 has been moved to Bootle......
There's no need for all of the full stops. We all miss things from time to time
(31/08/2015 19:07)MPTE1955 Wrote: [ -> ]Weren't the ones Bootle are getting currently on loan at Winsford, so it will be whenever they can give them up.
Thanks MPTE
4168 is a former WY example so that means Bootle have/are getting 3 Examples
4414 is currently operating from St Helens is out on the 10 today
4208 on the 58 today. I heard it before I could see it.
(01/09/2015 13:27)Barney Wrote: [ -> ]4208 on the 58 today. I heard it before I could see it.
I seen that earlier on, it didn't sound very well
(01/09/2015 08:04)Shaun821 Wrote: [ -> ]4168 is out on the 62.
Managed to get a ride on 4168 (LJ51 DLU) DB250/President decker today, and I can't honestly say I'm too impressed.
Whiney engine note and DLA-style acceleration suggests 13 years of hard use in London (ex-London DLP71).
4168 feels old fashioned too, with a narrow staircase and its got thick pillars upstairs which create a claustrophobic feel.
Comparatively heavy as well with a kerbweight of 11740kg.
These may now be single-door (seating capacity is now 70 passengers), they may have Interurban paintwork and they may have new blue 'chessboard' moquette, but they are definitely feeling their age.
I certainly hope they're stop-gap buses rather than permanent vehicles. With the recent increase in passenger numbers in north Liverpool, Bootle needs newer deckers, rather than tired London cast-offs
That may just be this one, I had one of Speke's a couple of weeks ago and that wasn't bad. I have to agree about the old fashioned feel, that was the first thing I thought as soon as I got on, the thick pillars at the top deck front made it feel narrow inside.
I have also done most of the former Bolton examples and found them to be of a decent standard as well, seems you have come accross the *bag egg* of the batch
4179 was on the 54 yesterday (01/09).