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(04/08/2017 14:42)E208 WBG Wrote: [ -> ]For what route?

The ex Wrexham Enviro400s are for the 51
(04/08/2017 16:07)Y474 KNF Wrote: [ -> ]The ex Wrexham Enviro400s are for the 51

They are but none of them have 51 branding on the side yet just generic Arriva branding so wasn't sure if 4406 was the first to have it or just like the others
Quick update:
BODY SHOP:
2956 , 4655 , 2634 , 2627 , 4437
ENGINE SHOP:
4187 , cadet?
PAINT SHOP:
2654 , 3013 , Enviro400? , gemini 2?
OUTSIDE:
4406 , 4212 , 4210 , 2619 , 4414 , 4174 , 4161 , 2828
4429 , 2459 , 2909 , 4400 , 8214 , 8207 , 2706 , 2707
2714 , 2715 , 2716 , 2717 , 2719
(06/08/2017 09:54)motormayhem1 Wrote: [ -> ]Quick update:
BODY SHOP:
2956 , 4655 , 2634 , 2627 , 4437
ENGINE SHOP:
4187 , cadet?
PAINT SHOP:
2654 , 3013 , Enviro400? , gemini 2?
OUTSIDE:
4406 , 4212 , 4210 , 2619 , 4414 , 4174 , 4161 , 2828
4429 , 2459 , 2909 , 4400 , 8214 , 8207 , 2706 , 2707
2714 , 2715 , 2716 , 2717 , 2719

Thanks for the update. It always surprises me as to how little capacity Arriva has for such work these days. The fleet is only slightly smaller than the MPTE fleet of pre-deregulation days but PSRC does about a tenth of the work that Edge Lane Works did in the past. Are modern buses more robust and reliable than those of the past, are maintenance standards less or is a lot of work contracted out?
Basically they don't want to spend the money that was spent years all those years ago.
Budgets rule these days. Or should i say.... 'a lack of a decent budget for an engineering department to work with' .
Shame really.

TT
Why are there four 44 series Enviro400's sat around. These are 58, 09 plate are they not. Are there issues with these earlier Enviros?
Maybe they are there for a repaint? 4414 has been VOR for a while btw
4414 as had its engine removed and a few windows and the others are here for general rta work or refurbs.
Surely that can't be it for 4414, not exactly old is it, not surprised about the engine though as sounded horrendous last time I was on it.
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Surely that can't be it for 4414, not exactly old is it, not surprised about the engine though as sounded horrendous last time I was on it.
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they aren`t exactly new either now,had a hard life of heavy use in 9 years
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