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In view of the current Arriva bus strike is any other bus company taking over the services from Birkdale and Southport Station to the showground?

Maybe But the Strikes Might end on the 17th and the Flowershow starts on the 18th

(14/08/2022 10:46)Busmadperson Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe But the Strikes Might end on the 17th and the Flowershow starts on the 18th

Could possibly end, Depends which way the Drivers Vote

So the probable answer is no as it is getting far too late to organise the number of buses and staff required. It does not help either that Merseyrail are only operating an hourly service from Liverpool Central on Thursday. Walking will only be for the fittest and with rain due I can see a massive drop in attendance which will hit stallholders hardest.

(14/08/2022 11:04)childwallblues Wrote: [ -> ]So the probable answer is no as it is getting far too late to organise the number of buses and staff required. It does not help either that Merseyrail are only operating an hourly service from Liverpool Central on Thursday. Walking will only be for the fittest and with rain due I can see a massive drop in attendance which will hit stallholders hardest.

Maybe if greedy transport operators put the needs of their staff ahead of the increased bank balances of their shareholders for a change, it wouldn't be in the sorry mess it is now???

(14/08/2022 15:57)teenagewasteland Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe if greedy transport operators put the needs of their staff ahead of the increased bank balances of their shareholders for a change, it wouldn't be in the sorry mess it is now???

I'm afraid most transport companies made losses in 2020 and 2021 due to huge drops in passenger revenue during COVID.

The problem is the unions want an annual pay increase based on inflation when inflation is high and based on profit levels when inflation is low.

I recall a number of years back a union agreed with Stagecoach Manchester 4% one year and 0% the next, instead of 2% the proposed each year. Then when the next year came around they started arguing Stagecoach were greedy for freezing their members pay.

(14/08/2022 16:30)knutstransport Wrote: [ -> ]I'm afraid most transport companies made losses in 2020 and 2021 due to huge drops in passenger revenue during COVID.

The problem is the unions want an annual pay increase based on inflation when inflation is high and based on profit levels when inflation is low.

I recall a number of years back a union agreed with Stagecoach Manchester 4% one year and 0% the next, instead of 2% the proposed each year. Then when the next year came around they started arguing Stagecoach were greedy for freezing their members pay.

Which transport operators are you talking about...that made a loss during covid...name them please because I don't know of any

(14/08/2022 18:31)Michael Wrote: [ -> ]Which transport operators are you talking about...that made a loss during covid...name them please because I don't know of any

Arriva plc has filled a pretax loss of £88m in their most recent submission to Companies House

https://find-and-update.company-informat...ng-history

Now how about you post proof of examples of ones which made a profit, given you're making out they all made profits?

Can we please keep this discussion to the topic at hand, thanks.

Apparently it is being subcontracted to other operators.