I thought it'd be a good idea to have a thread to keep track of the new stock and any resulting cascades. If anyone has any further information it'd be much appreciated
Alexander Dennis Enviro400City (TBC)
TBC-TBC (TBC) - St Helens
Wright StreetDeck Ultroliner (24)
4710-4733 - Green Lane
Wright StreetLite 8.8M (1)
6015 - Southport
Wright StreetLite 9.5M (5)
6010-6014 - Southport
Wright StreetLite 10.8M (4)
6006-6009 - Southport
Cascades
2159/65 - Southport to Arriva Yorkshire (via Team Pennine)
2160/6 - Southport to St Helens
2161/4 - Southport to Unallocated
2162/3 - Southport to Birkenhead
2587 - Southport to Withdrawn
2622/24 - Southport to Birkenhead
4565-71 - Speke to Southport (loan)
(21/09/2021 16:02)SK15 GZG Wrote: [ -> ]I thought it'd be a good idea to have a thread to keep track of the new stock and any resulting cascades. If anyone has any further information it'd be much appreciated
Alexander Dennis Enviro400City (TBC)
TBC-TBC (TBC) - St Helens
Wright StreetLite (10)
TBC-TBC (10) - Southport
Wright StreetDeck Ultroliner (24)
4xxx-4xxx (24) - Green Lane
My understanding is that the hydrogen-powered ADLs for the 10A service are to be purchased by LCR/Merseytravel and not Arriva.
(21/09/2021 19:16)Barney Wrote: [ -> ]My understanding is that the hydrogen-powered ADLs for the 10A service are to be purchased by LCR/Merseytravel and not Arriva.
I know that's the case but I thought it'd be worth including them anyway as at least some of them will be operated by Arriva
(21/09/2021 16:02)SK15 GZG Wrote: [ -> ]I thought it'd be a good idea to have a thread to keep track of the new stock and any resulting cascades. If anyone has any further information it'd be much appreciated
Alexander Dennis Enviro400City (TBC)
TBC-TBC (TBC) - St Helens
Wright StreetLite (10)
TBC-TBC (10) - Southport
Wright StreetDeck Ultroliner (24)
4xxx-4xxx (24) - Green Lane
Hope the StreetDeck's are better than the StreetLights, shocking that someone actually designed something so bad
(21/09/2021 19:48)1466 Wrote: [ -> ]Hope the StreetDeck's are better than the StreetLights, shocking that someone actually designed something so bad
Let's hope these the build quality of these StreetDecks is better than the similar looking Gemini 3 hybrids, as those have not aged at all well.
(21/09/2021 20:00)H101GEV Wrote: [ -> ]Let's hope these the build quality of these StreetDecks is better than the similar looking Gemini 3 hybrids, as those have not aged at all well.
Hopefully the engines will have improvements too over the Daimlers seen at First, Diamond etc which are very prone to problems!
(21/09/2021 20:04)thomasl1231 Wrote: [ -> ]Hopefully the engines will have improvements too over the Daimlers seen at First, Diamond etc which are very prone to problems!
The engines will be the same if Arriva have spec them with the OM934 I hope they’ve chosen the much better OM936 they need the extra power
(21/09/2021 21:25)darylyates17 Wrote: [ -> ]The engines will be the same if Arriva have spec them with the OM934 I hope they’ve chosen the much better OM936 they need the extra power
Despite the almost universal condemnation of the StreetLites that LS had delivered several years ago and the clear failings of the underpowered engine in the StreetDecker reported elsewhere one does wonder why these have been ordered. Are they that much cheaper? If so, the old adage "Buy cheap, buy twice" needs to be considered.
The Wright B10Ms were solid workhorses and perfectly suited to the demands of inner-city operation and the Arriva app and site is appalling since it was revamped. Perhaps there is some truth in the suggestion that Arriva is in deliberate manged decline.
(22/09/2021 09:50)Barney Wrote: [ -> ]Despite the almost universal condemnation of the StreetLites that LS had delivered several years ago and the clear failings of the underpowered engine in the StreetDecker reported elsewhere one does wonder why these have been ordered. Are they that much cheaper? If so, the old adage "Buy cheap, buy twice" needs to be considered.
The Wright B10Ms were solid workhorses and perfectly suited to the demands of inner-city operation and the Arriva app and site is appalling since it was revamped. Perhaps there is some truth in the suggestion that Arriva is in deliberate manged decline.
I think it's more a case of having no choice. They've been wanting to sell the UK bus side of things off for a while, seem to be stuck with it for the foreseeable, and with Euro 6 rules coming in all over the shop, mixed with 15year rules like we have on Merseyside, it's a case of having no choice but buying new buses - the cheapest on the market - to replace their aging fleets or not run at all.